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QUOTE(kevin57 @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 11:40 PM) Good military strategy should rarely take anything off the table. Remember how there were those who said that we should not take any military action during Ramadan (while our troops were being fired on from mosques)? Your comparison of these fanatics with "all the Catholic a**holes out there in the world" is comical and absurd. Tell me how many Catholics have used airplanes as missiles. GMFAB but the problem is that not all muslims are "these fanatics". if you actually are a priest then i should hope that you would have the sense not to group all muslims together because of the fanatical ones. and by the way have you visited Ireland? The catholics do some s***ty stuff there dont they? so how many protestants have you killed?

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 06:04 PM) That's not true though. The exploratory Democratic hearings that took place today are an important first step in making sure this debate takes place on the floor, and hopefully in the courts as well. They had a lot odf scholarly witnesses that opined that the administration's defense here is nearly non-existant in their estimate. And a good number of Dem congresspersons got on record as being vocally very concerned with the apparent abuse of Executive power. The BushCo pushback begins in earnest next week, with Bush visiting the NSA on Monday (hopefully there will be a big protester turnout), and Gonzales and former NSA director Michael Hayden are also doing interviews Monday and Tuesday. it doesnt matter if they are "on the record" if nobody in america hears it. America needs to hear about the abuses of executive power more than congress does because right now the majority of americans, sadly enough, are not informed enough to realize that this is going on. one thing republicans are good at is mass propaganda. for some reason they are much better at getting the public to hear what they want them to then the democrats are - granted much of this lies in the fact that they are in power at the moment - but at the same time i've seen nothing about the Dems holding an exploratory blah blah on the abuse of power. if the Dems were smart they'd make a big enough fuss about it so that the American people would notice that there's something going on. edit: and i dont mean fuss in the way that NUKE would mean it.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 05:50 PM) OK, then regarding Comitatus specifically... I doubt specific military branches would be held-to for legal purposes, since Comitatus was (i think, correct me if not) written before the AF existed, and you'd want to leave flexibility. And I think since he's been doing it for five years, that the phrase "emergency" is no longer applicable. There is no invading force. There is no riot. I just don't see how surveillance of citizens can fall under emergent military force. And the idea of the Act is, as far as I can tell, to prevent the military from being used against US citizens. Seems to me Bush is trying to have his cake and eat it too - calls it military action so he can keep POWs, but doesn't call it military when he wants surveillance. but yet none of the dems in congress have the backbone to call him on it.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 05:49 PM) I heard Ames, Iowa was getting it bad but Heads would be the one to ask about that. i dont know if i ever realized that you were from iowa... whereabouts? i'm from Iowa City - in Chitown for college

damn it kinda stopped... so uh... now this thread is even more pointless than before.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 01:51 PM) Here is at least one race where Independents will have a big say. The Texas Governor race will see Gov. Perry ® (Tex likes: Kap doesn't) a yet to be determined DEM, Strayhorn (a Rep turned Indy), and Kinky Friedman another Independant. Strayhorn, has won statewide office and is clearly a threat. She has some great fundraising skills, and Texas doesn't seem to have a problem electing ladies to statewide offices. The biggest issue facing the Indie candidates is getting on the ballot. If a voter signs either petition they are not allowed to vote in the primary for either party. If they do vote, it would void their petition. So, as always, getting on the ballot is the first and biggest hurdle facing Independent candidates. To win that hurdle, comes the second biggest hurdle, raising enough money to mount a succesful campaign. time out, this person's name is Kinky Friedman? Kinky? thats hilarious. i'd vote for ... him or her or it or whatever

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 05:35 PM) Then it's military force inside the borders used against US citizens, and its per se illegal. "snap" my ass. awww double snap!

lol i look outside one moment and its just cloudy... suddenly i look back and theres a f***ing blizzard outside with snow already having accumulated! what the f***! i know this probably wasnt worth a post but i did it anyway you bastards.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 05:22 PM) Bush's argument is that this is NOT domestic law enforcement, but part of the war against al Qaeda. awww snap! EDIT: i love my insightful comments

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 05:12 PM) Yeah, but you're our moron. I Kid Because I Care® awww thanks. that makes me feel a little better.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 17, 2006 -> 10:24 AM) Eventually, these guys will get found and destroyed. It's a matter of time. you've had 4 years, how long do you need?

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 04:18 PM) That was the point.... then we're agreed. i seem to have issues understanding your posts... it's been happening a lot lately. i guess i'm just a moron.

seriously those pics are amazing and the soxtalk extension jazz is amazing (thanks RME)

DePloderer you are a god among men

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 03:16 PM) I read once that it's illegal to hunt for whales in any lake, stream or river in Ohio. It's also illegal to mis-pronounce the name of the town of Joliet. just out of curiosity how does that relate... at all... interesting facts nonetheless!

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 03:14 PM) I didn't say that. However, when you read some people's posts around here, "everything is Bush's fault' comes through loud and clear. See my post about Cheney's arrogance. There's plenty of blame to go around, my friend. And I can see that. However, on the 'domestic spying' issue (which it's not, but hey, whatever sounds bad enough to make it a TRAVESTY) all of the facts are not out there about it, and people go around parroting like they know all the facts and Bush is a treasonous, Constitution stomping mother f*cker. People don't know what happened, other then what was leaked in the NYSlimes. But, it's enough to know that the President is 'morally bankrupt' and is 'stomping on the constitution' according to the 'leftists'. you know, i find it funny too when all of the blame goes to the guy who's leading our country. if something goes wrong why should we look to the top? i mean for gods sake, no body ever got mad at clinton when things went wrong... ever...

QUOTE(Cknolls @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 03:18 PM) Kind of like the other Democrat who was also vilified for, oh my gosh, agreeing WITH Bush on how to fight the war on terror. He retired, but I wish he would have run for re-election, just to see how hard the Dems would have fought to replace him. Democrats like him,Reagan Dems, are presently Repubs because their former party does not stand for what it used to stand for. the republican party also does not stand for what it used to. Remember Eisenhower? he was a pretty staunch Repub. His son was also. Recently, his son has switched to being a democrat not because his values and opinions have changed, but because the republican party has begun to swing so far to the right that he just isnt a republican anymore. bottom line, both parties change. out of curiosity how would you feel about a republican in congress who agreed with john kerry and was very outspoken about this?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 03:17 PM) I would call that conclusive evidence that he is alive lol ok great, we have conclusive evidence that he is, in fact, alive. then if you look to the second part of my original post you'll see my reaction to that news.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 03:14 PM) I don't recall saying it couldn't be talked about... as evidence I've been doing a lot of talking about it. What I did say is how can one know how they would for a fact react...? Answer... until they walked in those shoes, they wouldn't. and i'll give you that. no one can ever know for sure about ANYTHING until they've experienced it. but it seems like a moot point since it is and has to be discussed.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 03:01 PM) I would still hesitiate to call this story really "reported" Where would you think that alleged obstruction of justice by a President should fall on a newscast? Call me silly but I would have thought it would have been screaming headlines and leading newscasts... Has it? I sure haven't seen it. It was picked up days later by some of the newspapers and wires, but it is so far back on the headlines it isn't even funny. i havent read a newspaper in days or watched the news and yet i've heard about it (and not first from here)

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 03:03 PM) The CIA confirmed the voice on the tape was Bin Laden. sooo that strengthen's my point

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 19, 2006 -> 10:54 PM) I brought up a similar point recently in one of the Buster forums. Even the people pretty far left don't refer to people on the right with childish and inane names like "leftist" or "liberal scum". It makes the right wingers in this forum look like 12-year-olds. Where does that come from, anyway? The desire to degrate someone who doesn't agree with you, just for that reason? i dont know where it comes from either, but i do find it funny that the majority of this kind of thing comes from their side and not ours. i read one of NUKE's posts recently that said that all liberals ever do is whine and complain childishly or something to that affect. typical hypocrisy.

i just find it funny that, regardless whether he is or is not alive, we have no conclusive evidence either way. this war was started oh... 4 f***ing years ago and umm well, he's still not dead. how sad is it if the United States of America cant kill one man? and if i recall correctly, killing Osama was the number one priority in the war on terror. number one priority huh?

its funny, as a democrat, whenever i see lieberman's name it takes a second for me to remember that he is, in fact, also a democrat. but that's mostly because he's not.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 12:24 PM) Wait just a goddamn minute here! It's ok for some LEFTIST! to bash FoxNews and when bring up CBS in response I get this crap? i dont think he was specifically responding to you as much as the story itself. The GOP says that theres such a liberal media bias, but if that were the case this story would never have come out. There wouldnt be the Limbaughs, the O'Reillys etc etc etc. Tex's point is that the media is in reality no more liberally biased than it is conservatively biased but by saying that it has a liberal bias the GOP gains more support. btw i like reading tex's posts because, unlike most of us (me included), he tends to see things for what they are as opposed to letting a zealous political view cloud his judgement. props to you.