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QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 10:54 AM) Yup I saw one of Casey Anthony's defense lawyers on Piers Morgan last night and he had an interesting theory. He said if someone is accused of murder by their is only circumstancial evidence to go by, chances are pretty good the accused get off but if you absolutely know who the killer is (Zim in this case claiming self-defense), they usually will get convicted. He predicted that GZ will get manslaughter. Its really not that shocking and I posted something similar last night about how a jury may not want to give 25 years but is okay with 1 year even though technically the defense is the exact same. Y2hh, From what Illinilaw posted yesterday Im pretty sure the way the judge handled the manslaughter charge is going to be okay. She threw out the 3rd degree based on child abuse.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 11, 2013 -> 01:48 PM) Yet there is only one franchise that can say with certainty that they are in a better position to win than Chicago. f***ing wannabes Red Kool-Aid, so delicious.

Speaking of that show, Wayans is going to come back for season 3 as Coach. So there should be some Winston/Coach action. I think the show is good, not amazing but definitely has some great moments, plus Bucky the Badger.

I love it when you analyze.

Its disrespectful to everyone else. I hate to say it, but if you put a Picasso on the floor of your house and someone steps on it, thats on you. I bet they have hundreds of feet of velvet rope at the UC, if you think that the floor is so damn sacred, put ropes around it, then you can b**** when someone "disrespects" your floor. Its silly, and when you look at the picture of Bieber, not one of those guys were "getting mad" or anything. Im sure afterwards they told the Radio guys and meatheads of Chicago that they yelled at Bieber, but when it was happening Id venture to guess it was all: "Oh Mr Bieber why dont you stand there so you can get a great shot of the cup" "Oh Mr Bieber can we do anything to make your stay more comfortable" Someone had the time to take a picture of him actually standing on the logo. FAUXTRAGE!! If it was someone from the other team, or if the picture was of Bieber clowning the logo, sure that is something different.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 11, 2013 -> 11:23 AM) Defense was caught TOTALLY off guard by the 3rd degree inclusion. I'm not sure if it will stick, but that just reeks of brilliance on the part of the prosecution. It makes me think of the bureaucracy episode of Futurama: "you are technically correct, which is the best kind of correct" Its not brilliant it is dirty. We shouldnt be convicting people on trickery, we should convict people on evidence and facts. Now the counterargument is that the defense should have been preparing for the worst and expecting that at some point the prosecution was going to do something like this (I believe this board has talked about how the charge was odd for months) and been ready.

If it was purely Deng being swapped for Melo, Id think the Bulls would have a better chance to beat the Heat. But this isnt happening.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 11, 2013 -> 11:19 AM) lesser burden of proof, no? No because self defense is an affirmative defense. So if he was self defending in the Murder 2 charge, he was self defending in the manslaughter charge.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 11, 2013 -> 11:15 AM) He can still use the same self-defense argument though. If the jury buys that it doesn't matter what they charge him with. That would be how the law works, but the way people think is: "Well I dont want him to go to jail for 10 years, but maybe 1 year is just."

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 11, 2013 -> 10:53 AM) Is it legal to do that? Charge people with multiple charges on one specific crime? Im not a criminal lawyer so I cant be 100% sure, but in a civil case you can absolutely plead/try multiple alternative theories. IE Breach of Contract Unjust Enrichment Quantum Meriut I just cant believe that in criminal law you are stuck with murder 1 or 2, because that would make it extremely difficult for the prosecution. Basically if you go murder 1 and the jury thought "Well it was heat of moment" the defendant then is completely innocent? It just doesnt seem right.

Im still not understanding why he wasnt just charged with all of this in the first place.

So I guess they are now charging Zimmerman with other charges (like manslaughter) lol Seems pretty unfair.

So much fauxtrage! OMG HES ON A FLOOR THAT HAS A PICTURE!!! OMG A CANADIAN BOY IS A FAN OF HOCKEY!! ROAR ROAR ROAR Im going to chalk this up to first world problems. If you have time to b**** about who is touching the Stanley Cup your team just won, maybe you should re-think your priorities in life.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 05:24 PM) just make sure it's not TOO cold... Step 1: Get ranging boner Step 2: Pants "accidentally" fall off Step 3: Results

Well if wite suggests it there has to be merit. I guess Ill just go with wardrobe malfunction and say something like: "Its fricking cold, are you just going to stand there?" Its just good manners to help a guy out in a situation like that.

Zero excuse? What about if his oline sucks and he gets no protection. Even Joe Montana cant play QB if no one can protect a 3-5 step drop.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 03:45 PM) but u smoke Never said I was retiring from intoxicants.

Im semi-retired from drinking.

Yeah you cant leave the USA. Thats just non-American.

Jake, First of all thanks, just reading other peoples stories can sometimes give me insight that I may overlook when I get to deep into a situation. I have been on the other side of the coin, I know its a delicate. Which is obviously not great for someone like me who is constantly replaying every time Ive ever seen her to try and get some sort of clearer picture on whats going on. But obviously this is a long con, which is why at this point Im just trying to get the pieces in the right places to start. Good news for me is that a lot of my friends are really into this idea and want to make it happen. Better news is some random girl (well shes a friend of a friend, but first time I met her) basically pulled me aside and was like "You and that girl are amazing together blah blah blah", so Im not the only one seeing it, which leads me to believe that there is actually something there. Gotta be delicate though lol, which is why Im doing hilarious things like walking past her building after court just in case I happen to bump into her.... Sometimes you gotta make your own breaks.

Id say/send something that in a roundabout way gets your answer: "Hey I know they were going to call this morning, I have to step out for lunch should I wait or do you think they want to call this afternoon" That way you try and pry information without seeming like your desperate for a call back.

Im pretty sure she currently has some long distance boyfriend so I think its a little more of a delicate situation than just seeing her next time and going: So about your phone, I need its number... But maybe I should embrace the doucheness of my youth and not care about the fallout that is caused by my actions. Life used to be so much simpler then. I think the immediate focus is just on seeing her again. (Edit) Does she have a boyfriend? My answer to that would be, allegedly. Ive never seen him and the only time shes ever mentioned him it was in what I consider an odd fashion and no one else I know can really give me a straight answer on the situation either.

I over think what Im going to eat for lunch, its what I do. Paralysis of analysis! But lol thanks for the tip, I know you guys (Rock, Steve, Shack) have a way with the ladies so I may just go for the simple direct approach. Almost did it the last time I saw her but decided with a more humorous "Next time maybe youll get my number". (It made sense in the context)

She is a friend. She moved from another state a few months ago and she randomly became friends with another girl I am friends with and has been going out with us to concerts/bars/etc. So this wasnt like when I immediately saw her I went insane, just the more I hung out with her the more I started to like her and then last week she made a comment and we started talking and it just was amazing how much we have in common. She said things that I think about, that are just kind of off the wall ideas and it was intellectually meaningful. And then I was like f***, Im really messed up about this girl now. Good news is that most of my friends are behind this, the bad news is I dont feel like bothering them and being like "You need to make sure she comes out tonight" lol. So now its like a countdown to Friday (50/50 Ill see her) and then trying to read the situation, because it will be the first time Ive seen her since then.

Im so fixated on this girl its impossible to think. My mind is seriously warped at this point. lol The worst part is Ive known her for a few months, just didnt realize how awesome she was. Cant tell what the situation is though, shes got a boyfriend or something, has never really mentioned him much and he doesnt live here. So basically Im worthless at this point as I pretty much cant go 5 minutes without thinking about her. Ruh roh