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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 13, 2012 -> 03:25 PM) Semantics. The alderman said he'd deny the permit, then this thing blew up in his face. It'll be denied, on different grounds, but we all know CFA was effectively banned from opening a store in that spot. If you are so confident in the future, any chance you can pick tonight's lotto numbers? If the permit is denied, then we can discuss whether it was right/wrong, illegal/legal. But as of now, I have no idea what will happen, and there is currently a CFA in Chicago, so to say CFA is banned in Chicago, is simply false (not that you said that).
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 13, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) Hitler sounds like he would have prevailed had he listened to some experts and not blown it. No Hitler would never have been successful because he was an ideologue who would cut off his own nose to spite his face. He would never have been successful because ultimately Hitler was a fool. He drove out many of the brightest scientists who would help in his demise, simply because of their religion. He killed millions instead of enlisting them in the German army. Hitler would have never worked with Stalin, he hated Communism. Stalin likely would have left Germany alone as they would have had plenty of room to expand into Asia and against other enemies (Russia had an axe to grind against Japan.)
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Id file this under the category of, not worth the time or effort. Sometimes the best route is to just ignore it. Will it really do Peppers any good to bring further publicity to it? Hes got his millions, s*** happens.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2012 -> 01:23 PM) Of course, if you keep adding Lottery picks to that NOLA lineup, even late lottery picks, they could become even more formidable as Davis's game develops They have a long way to go even be considered in the top half of the West. OKC is still going to devastate them, and Davis has never seen anyone like Dwight.
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If they give Davis a ton of minutes even 12 points a game isnt unreasonable. But 12 points isnt a #1 scoring option.
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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Aug 13, 2012 -> 12:04 PM) I didnt get a chance to see any of the olympics, how did Anthony Davis look? Is he already gonna be the #1 option with Gordon being #2? If Davis lives up to the hype, and Gordon stays healthy that team can make some noise...probably not a title contender just yet but certainly a playoff team. If they can turn Rivers into a PG like their plan is/was then that makes that team even better. Ryan Anderson was also a good addition. NOLA has the pieces there. Davis is extremely raw, I cant imagine any team will get very far with him as their #1 option. Right now he is likely going to be an above average defender and below average on offense.
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All New Soccer Thread ~ All Levels ~ All Leagues
Soxbadger replied to Texsox's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 13, 2012 -> 11:06 AM) They were denied a permit, right? Can't build a store where they wanted to, right? Pretty sure that's the equivalent of being banned. As of now nothing has happened, the Alderman said he would deny the permit, but as of today it has not been denied. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-07...e-ward-alderman Moreno said he would do it, it has not been done yet. Once again, the threat of action, does not equal action.
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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Aug 12, 2012 -> 06:07 PM) don't bs here. The mayor Chicago, Boston, SF, ect said they would ban CFA. so these idiots did indeed attempt to ban CFA, then their lawyers likely told them they would get pwned in court. people in power were trying to ban them. fact. i'm sure most SSM supporters believe in free speech and are reasonable people. my original post was not directed at them, but at these clown mayors and the like that pushed this whole thing into a new realm of stupidity. no you did not good sir. your argument was deeply flawed and you likely knew this and ended with an insult. you actually remind me a little bit of Michele Bachmann. 1) Once again you arent seeing the equivalence. SSM is actually banned, CFA is not banned. I can say I want to do something, that doesnt mean I can actually do it. You keep saying the Mayor of Chicago did this that and the other, but the actual facts are CFA is operating today. 2) Mayors are clowns, there is nothing new with this. 3) My argument isnt flawed at all. It wasnt an insult against you, it was a conclusion about your statement. Are you that PC? QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 13, 2012 -> 07:35 AM) Let me fix the bolded part for you. "I'm not saying you're stupid, I'm saying the things you say are stupid." Isn't this semantics? Farmteam basically covered this. You can be the smartest person in the world and make a terrible argument. The hope is that if you are smart, you will see the weakness of your argument and change. If I wanted to attack someone, it would be apparent.
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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 13, 2012 -> 08:48 AM) Oh, Breaking Bad - how good you are... I'm a little perturbed we have to go through more Jessie depression and questions. I mean, come on dude, what do you think meth does to people? No bother, great show, great episode. I actually think its the other way. Jesse is a very empathetic person who actually cares about others. The only way he can cope is to find an outlet in drug addiction. I think an interesting dynamic is that Jesse was the drug dealer/drug addict to start, whereas Walt was this straight edge teacher. Jesse continually has crisis of conscious about hurting other people, Walt could care less.
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Sox do proposals on the board.
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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Aug 12, 2012 -> 02:04 PM) mayors of major cities banning a company is a ban. there is no way around it. boycott = fine. ban = illegal. see we agree. i don't know about the result of your little talk with anti-SSM groups, you'll have to have one and tell me how it goes. the SSM marriage issue doesn't matter to me either way. and without a good argument you resort to insults. 1) Where has CFA been banned. Find 1 banning. CFA exists in Chicago, so dont say Chicago as there are ones here. 2) I have talked with SSM groups about it, and not one has ever said that CFA doesnt have the right to their opinion. 3) Not really, first I beat your argument soundly, then I concluded. I never insulted you, I said your statement was a joke, which it was. Nice try though with the woe is me routine.
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 12, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) To the history buffs: They talked a lot about the overnight bombings and Germany blowing up a famous church. How come the world wasn't more outraged and how come England didn't send some bombers over to Germany? Did they have no bombers? Were they sitting ducks for Germany's planes? Because in the grand scale of things a church is basically nothing. Germany killed millions of people, Soviets lost almost 20million people, the US nuked Japan 2x at who knows what cost. The US turned Germany into rubble over time.
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The key parts are the German Navy was not built for a full scale naval invasion (see Plan Z's failure and Germany's admittance that they had to focus on submarines, not a traditional navy). Ships get sunk, its like saying that if only the Spanish Armada wouldnt have run into a storm England would have been defeated, well Germany's ships were sunk and because they had such a poor Navy and no resources, they couldnt replace them properly. Here is Operation Sea Lion:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea_Lion Navy The Channel (Der Kanal), D.66 Kriegsmarine nautical chart, 1943, http://www.kartengruppe.it private collection The most daunting problem for Germany in protecting an invasion fleet was the small size of its navy. The Kriegsmarine, already numerically far inferior to Britain's Royal Navy, had lost a sizable portion of its large modern surface units in April 1940 during the Norwegian Campaign, either as complete losses or due to battle damage. In particular, the loss of two light cruisers and ten destroyers was crippling, as these were the very warships most suited to operating in the Channel narrows where the invasion would likely take place.[22] Most U-boats, the most powerful arm of the Kriegsmarine, were meant for destroying ships, not supporting an invasion. Although the Royal Navy could not bring to bear the whole of its naval superiority (most of the fleet was engaged in the Atlantic and Mediterranean), the British Home Fleet still had a very large advantage in numbers. It was debatable whether British ships were as vulnerable to enemy air attack as the Germans hoped. During the Dunkirk evacuation few warships were actually sunk, despite being stationary targets. The overall disparity between the opposing naval forces made the amphibious invasion plan risky, regardless of the outcome in the air. In addition, the Kriegsmarine had allocated its few remaining larger and modern ships to diversionary operations in the North Sea. The French fleet, one of the most powerful and modern in the world, might have tipped the balance against Britain. However, the preemptive destruction of the French fleet by the British by an attack on Mers-el-Kébir and the scuttling of the French fleet in Toulon two years later ensured that this could not happen. Even if the Royal Navy had been neutralised, the chances of a successful amphibious invasion across the Channel were remote. The Germans had no specialised landing craft, and had to rely primarily on river barges to lift troops and supplies for the landing. This would have limited the quantity of artillery and tanks that could be transported and restricted operations to times of good weather. The barges were not designed for use in open sea and even in almost perfect conditions, they would have been slow and vulnerable to attack. There were also not enough barges to transport the first invasion wave nor the following waves with their equipment. The Germans would have needed to immediately capture a port, an unlikely circumstance considering the strength of the British coastal defences around the south-eastern harbours at that time. The British also had several contingency plans, including the use of poison gas. Its only in British fantasy that Germany could have come across the channel. The actual German's who understood the operation (Goring and Reader) thought the plan was asinine. The English had a superior Navy at all points during the war, there was just simply no way the German's could actually get across that channel. The entire premise of the plan was to scare Britain into surrender, which is why they used scare tactics against the British population, instead of actually deriving a plan to successfully conquer England.
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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Aug 12, 2012 -> 11:07 AM) Obviously, people totally overreacted to this and they look like idiots for doing so. Some old man that started a chicken sandwich company says he is against gay marriage and people go bat s*** crazy. Some people can't deal with anything outside their own world view. They can't even tolerate hearing about a different view. They just go berserk and start 'banning' stuff. That is a really ironic statement. Not buying chicken equal ban. Disallowing same sex marriage not equal to ban? Perhaps people should look in the mirror, because even though I am against CFA I believe that they have every right to have a business, make money and have their ideals. Even though I disagree with them, I believe they deserve the same treatment as all other corporations. I do not believe that other companies should get tax breaks because they are for SSM, I dont believe there should be any advantage granted. Now compare that to the people who are against SSM. Do you think that they would sit down and agree with me that everyone should get treated equal, regardless of whether we disagree with them? That everyone in the US deserves equal treatment, regardless of whether they like girls or guys? Otherwise your statement is a joke, and we both know it.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 12, 2012 -> 11:56 AM) Germany actually did threaten a land invasion, but through a series of blunders, they lost most of their Navy during the attacks on Norway, and then they failed to maintain air superiority after they decided to divert to terror bombing of London. The German Air Force really had the RAF on the ropes in August 1940 while attacking the air bases and factories directly, but they then diverted to attacking civilian targets and that gave the RAF a chance to recover. And no matter what the public face of Churchill was, they were also negotiating behind the scenes throughout the winter of 1940 to try to take Britain out of the war. They never came to an agreement, but Britain was doing a lot of other moves at the same time. Germany never came close to an actual invasion of England. Submarines and battleships arent transports. The German war machine was built for land combat and it would have taken a substantial effort to build enough transport ships to carry hundreds of thousands of troops across the channel. For example the D-Day invasion required the following: The invasion fleet was drawn from eight different navies, comprising 6,939 vessels: 1,213 warships, 4,126 transport vessels (landing ships and landing craft), and 736 ancillary craft and 864 merchant vessels. Out of the 2,468 major landing vessels in the two task forces deployed on 6 June 1944 only 346 were American. Of the 23 cruisers covering the landings 17 were Royal Navy. In fact of the 16 warships covering the American Western beaches (Utah and Omaha) 50% were British and Allied ships. There were 195,700 naval personnel involved; 112,824 (58%) were British (Royal Navy), 52,889 (30%) US and 4,988 Allied countries This was to attack France, while the German army was already defending 2 other fronts (Italy, Russia). The German army would have needed at least that force to actually try and invade England. Now lets look at the actual force of the German Navy during World War II: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegsmarine (More on Kreigsmarine) The planned naval program was not very far advanced by the time World War II began. In 1939 two M class cruisers and three H class battleships were laid down and the strength of the German fleet at the beginning of the war was not even 20% of Plan Z. On 1 September 1939, the navy still had a total personnel strength of only 78,000, and it was not at all ready for a major role in the war. Because of the long time it would take to get the Plan Z fleet ready for action and shortage in workers and material in wartime, Plan Z was essentially shelved in September 1939 and the resources allocated for its realization were largely redirected to the construction of U-boats, which would be ready for combat against Great Britain quicker. Youll notice that the German Navy did not even have hundreds of ships, let alone thousands of ships, and furthermore it almost had no transport ships. For comparison here is the US Navy during WWII: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States...in_World_War_II Now is it possible that England would have given up even though no actual land threat existed? Of course, the English like to make a huge deal about how much they sacrificed during World War II and how hard it was to live while the Germans were bombing them every night. I just wonder how much harder it was when millions of Russians died on the front line to stop the actual German war machine. Now I obviously have the luxury of historical hindsight, but there is no way Germany could have invaded GB without putting significant resources into the Navy and it would have likely taken years as even in the pre-war buildup Germany couldnt put out hundreds of ships a year, let alone thousands.
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Congrats, that is awesome!
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 12, 2012 -> 01:41 AM) Did you see Brokaw's special piece from London on Churchill and London staving off Hitler and holding on until the US finally joined the war effort? Also touched heavily on Churchill staying after FDR begging him basically for weapon. There were emotional interviews with some British survivors of Germany's attack on Britain in 1940 and 41. The conclusion was USA should be thankful to our pals in Britain for hanging on, that the world would be a much worse place today had Hitler taken over England. I enjoyed it. Was it all accurate? I didnt see it so I am not sure if you came to an accurate conclusion. England did hold out, but Hitler made a drastic mistake attacking USSR and splitting his army in a 2 front war. The combined effort of USSR/USA would have been very difficult for the Germans regardless, the war just likely would have taken longer on the European front or involved an atomic weapon. It really would have made no sense for Great Britain to surrender to Hitler when Germany did not really threaten a land invasion. If anything the world should be thankful for Russia who lost 10x-20x more than any other ally, and actually staved off a German frontal assault. If not for Russia, Britain would have surely fallen.
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 07:47 PM) So Sandusky was double teaming a kid with a prominent PSU booster, oh and was sending out kiddie porn to members of the second mile charity. Wow, really surprised. It had to go higher than just Sandusky. A Pennsylvania District Attorney disappeared over this. (Ray Gricar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gricar )
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Buses for ravinia are fine, the main lot is a disaster anyways. went to comicon for the first time, pretty fun. Got a few t-shirts and posters.
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JJ Watt hurt his elbow fighting for Montee Balls honor. I kid.
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Texans do have a disproportionate amount of Wisconsin players. So I can dig it, I just doubt it.
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Woody Allen and Larry David remind me of my dad.
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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 9, 2012 -> 07:31 AM) the closest situation I can think to this is the Baylor situation where the kid killed his teammate and the coach tried to cover it up I originally thought that but with the Baylor case there was actual financial impropriety as well (paying for non-scholarship players, recruiting violations and the head coach bliss had been paying players at SMU). According to wiki here were the major violations: Bliss paying for tuition for two players, Dennehy and Herring[4] and attempting to conceal it. Coaching staff providing meals, transportation, lodging and clothing to athletes. Coaching staff paying for tuition and fees for a recruit at another school. Bliss's encouragement of school boosters to donate to a foundation tied to a basketball team that included prospective Baylor recruits. Failure to report positive drug test results by athletes. Failure by the entire coaching staff to "exercise institutional control over the basketball program." I was shocked how little the NCAA cared about the murder part.
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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 8, 2012 -> 04:50 PM) You could call your congressperson and complain about it though. You could hold protests and sit ins and kiss-a-thons and whatever else to voice your displeasure of the US being linked to said backwards country. But that doesn't happen. That's the point of the meme. Yes, obviously feasibility is an issue. But it's not like you're estopped from doing ANYTHING. I do voice my displeasure about Saudi Arabia, just no one listens. My congressperson has no power to stop Saudi Arabia. I dont live in Saudi Arabia so I really cant protest it. And quite frankly Saudi Arabia doesnt even let women drive, there are a million reasons why I dislike Saudi Arabia. I dont purposefully buy their products, if a product was made by them, Id purposefully avoid it. That is the exact same way Im treating CFA. So really it seems like Im acting the same towards both, as I havent done anything but post my displeasure of both CFA and Saudi Arabia. QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 8, 2012 -> 04:55 PM) Let's also remember that CFA employs a LOT of innocent people who need that job. Something you and others are obviously not thinking about. If you hurt their business, the CEO, who is already mega rich, isn't affected whatsoever. The employees he will lay off, however...are. So good job. You've hurt innocents via collateral damage, but accomplished absolutely nothing in hurting your actual target. That, and if the media posted what other CEO's or CFO's or company executives from various companies supported or believed in, you'd be left buying nothing at all...of course, since the media isn't doing that research for you, you aren't going to bother doing it yourself. I'm sure there are executives at Apple that hate gays, and are mad that a homosexual is their new CEO, too... GG. Smart businesses dont let people know their political beliefs. I wouldnt advise a company to be either pro or anti SSM, Id advise them to keep their collective mouths shut, and if they want to give benefits great. But dont make a crusade about it, because your in the business of selling chicken, not political opinion.
