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going to google and searching could help ;o

(T)= team option for 2005 (P)=Player option for 2005 (M)=Mutual option for 2005 Starting Pitchers Aaron Sele Derek Lowe Pedro Martinez Esteban Loaiza Brad Radke Jon Lieber (T) Freddy Garcia Pat Hentgen Roger Clemens Wilson Alvarez Steve Trachsel (T) Kevin Millwood Eric Milton Woody Williams (T) David Wells Ismael Valdes Matt Morris Al Leiter (M) Brett Tomko (T) Kris Benson Odalis Perez Cory Lidle Matt Clement Glendon Rusch Elmer Dessens Relievers Felix Hernandez Jason Christianson (T) Robb Nen Antonio Osuna Trevor Hoffmann (T) Rod Beck (T) Steve Kline Jose Mesa Rheal Cormier Roberto Hernandez Billy Wagner (T) David Weathers Paul Schuey Armando Benitez Chad Fox Antonio Alfonseca John Smoltz (T) Terry Adams Ron Villone Curtis Leskanic Billy Koch Scott Williamson Alan Embree (T) Mike Timlin (T) Troy Percival Uegeth Urbina (T) Jeff Nelson Eddie Guardado (M) Catchers Dan Wilson Jason Varitek Einar Diaz Henry Blanco Kelly Stinnett Damian Miller Mike Matheny OF Marquis Grissom (T) Raul Mondesi Carl Everett (P) Craig Biggio (T) Lance Berkman Richard Hidalgo Jeromy Burnitz (M) Moises Alou (M) JD Drew Frank Cattalanotto Steve Finley Brian Jordan Rusty Greer (M) Jermaine Dye Carlos Beltran Jacque Jones Magglio Ordonez Juan Gonzalez (M) 1B/DH Ellis Burks Rafael Palmeiro (T) David Segui Tony Clark Eric Karros (T) Travis Lee John Olerud Tino Martinez Brad Fullmer Carlos Delgado Richie Sexson Robin Ventura Mo Vaughn (T) JT Snow 2B Roberto Alomar Jeff Kent Bret Boone (option vests with 450 PA's) Mark Grudzielanek 3B Troy Glaus Adrian Beltre Bill Mueller (T) Joe Randa (M) Corey Koskie Vinny Castilla SS Orlando Cabrera Jose Valentin Barry Larkin Alex Gonzalez (Chi) Rich Aurilia Cristian Guzman (M) Nomar Garciaparra

well put, but Damon came up with the Royals, not the A's

Oh alright, didnt read this. Reading articles regarding the situation probably helps.. maybe the fact that it is not early in the negotiations as Maggs has already broken them off..

I called Maggs a liar in this thread?

keep in mind Abreu's contract was signed when money was grown on trees including multi multi multi 6 times over deals to Manny Ramirez and Alex Rodriguez.. If Abreu is comparable to Maggs which I think is a pretty good comparison, and Abreu was given his contract in a time where the market was inflated, I think Maggs actually should be given less than Abreu.

very true. damn players.

This sucks

Ha, i knew that would come up sooner rather than later, but I have to go with who i've been rooting for my entire life, where i grew up, where my roots are, and that would be in Red Sox Nation

Mauer's going to be a good player, he's got such a pure swing.

what continues to strike me as fascinating is the fact that all of our concerns are with Magglio when JR and Maggs' agent have been millions of dollars off, all the while we have Esteban Loaiza whos been just as important, if not more important to this White Sox team this season and last becoming eligible for free agency too. It's stupid. Let Magglio walk, pick up two draft picks, sign Loaiza. End of story.

Valentin(5), Loaiza(3.5), Magglio(14), Koch(6.5) are all coming off the books next year. Loaiza will be resigned, no doubt in my mind. So his contract will probably boost up to around 5 million dollars. So that leaves 24 million dollars available for using on free agency etc. even with the rather weak free agent class this coming offseason, it will still be nice to possibly add some salary via trade which makes things pretty interesting if you ask me.

LA has game 5 and game 7 in the books just about it, obviously they still need to get one in detroit and I think if it doesnt come in game 4, it could very well happen in game 6. I have been very surprised with how dominating Detroit has been at times though, so maybe my thinking should be taken with a grain of salt ;o

Vlad has his team in first place, has them selling out game after game and it's definitly not because of Bartolo, so my vote goes to Vlad although Schilling, Clemens, and Uribe aren't far behind.

These kids dont deserve jail time, just a small fine, and some community service, sheesh.

How would Harold Reynolds know this? I can see Gammons who writes for the Globe, but how on earth does Reynolds know whats going on behind the scenes? seems like crap to me.

yea it really is odd how one team could have had him for nothing and then now we'll give up a top prospect third basemen or Kazmir for him.. seems odd..

Im glad I got to see what Darko's all about... He is one of the worst players at this point i've seen in a while.. it sucks the C's are interested...

Ever since the Slocumb trade i've been a huge fan of Jason Varitek.

coming from a celtic fan, i would've never thought i'd be rooting for the pistons.

...and vice versa ;o

What an awesome story it would be if this kid lives.. come on man, pull through..

yea, he's gotten his average up all the to 265, he still is tops in the league in walks and on base percentage, hes also got about 35 rbis. Bellhorn could very well be the starting second baseman at the all-star game.

I stayed in Naples during my visit to Ft. Myers for Spring Training this past spring, and i really enjoyed it. The beach was great, dolphins were coming up to the shore and you could in a sense swim with them. As for places to eat, there was this place at "the Village" that I really just wasn't good, so after that we stuck to something we knew and something cheap and just went to Chili's and then Bennigans right next to our hotel. The mall is also a fun place to go, they've got some good stores for a rainy day. Hmm, what else.. In Fort Myers only a short few miles away there is the Red Sox minor league facility, and that was probably more fun than anything else. well, i'll stop babbling on, have a good trip.

-- The funny thing is, Dallas' own lineback Dat Ngyuen is of japanese decent I believe.