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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 09:45 AM) My biggest concern with trading Q for Greinke is that there's a solid chance Q performs just as good as Greinke does the rest of the way. Q has already dominating some of the best lineups in baseball. Bingo. Floyd and Jones for Greinke and KRod? That'd get me real excited.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 02:15 PM) E7. What the hell did Dayan do?

This is what happens when you blow up the MetroDome and play on a real field.

Hopefully he nabs another reliever. My guess is he flips Floyd for a cheaper/more reliable starter.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 01:43 PM) Jim Bowden's new ESPN Insider article..... "If I had to rank the suitors in the order of the likelihood they get Greinke, it would go like this: 1. Rangers 2. Angels 3. Braves 4. Nationals 5. Blue Jays 6. Dodgers 7. Orioles " White Sox at 0 I see.

From: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensa...ts/?page_id=177 Some decent options I guess, but I am of the opinion that we should keep rolling out Beckham.

COME ON TIMO! COME ON TIMO!

QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 06:39 AM) If they do move Floyd, which again seems extremely unlikely at least this season, they could use that money to help resign (or pick up the option) on Peavy. Personally, I'm not sure how the White Sox would be able to replace him in the rotation, and he'd be on another one year deal so if he wants another payday, he'd have to stay healthy again next season so the Sox would get 2 seasons of him pitching on a 1 year deal. If they move Floyd in the off-season for a decent minor league prospect, they then have something like $9 of the $22 million they would need for Peavy. Combine with and Sale, possibly Quintana if he keeps it up, and that top 3 is looking pretty good again. Of course, the bottom of the rotation would have to get fixed. I'd personally rather spend Floyd's $9 million on Youkilis's option, but that's just me. Losing Peavy sucks, but we'd be getting back Danks.

Remaining schedules White Sox 3 @ Cleveland, 3 vs Cleveland 4 @ Toronto 3 vs NYY 3 @ Texas 6 @ Minnesota, 4 vs Minnesota 3 vs LAA, 3 @ LAA 6 vs KC, 6 @ KC 3 vs Oakland 3 vs Seattle 4 @ Baltimore 3 @ Detroit, 4 vs Detroit 4 vs Rays Tigers 5 @ Cleveland, 6 vs Cleveland 3 @ Toronto, 3 vs Toronto 3 @ Boston 4 vs NYY 3 @ Texas 6 @ Minnesota, 3 vs Minnesota 3 vs Baltimore 3 @ LAA, 3 vs LAA 6 @ KC, 4 vs KC 3 vs CWS, 4 @ CWS 3 vs Oakland Schedule Differences Tigers have 5 more games against Cleveland Tigers have 2 more games against Toronto Tigers have 3 more games against Boston Tigers have 1 more game against NYY Sox have 1 more game against Minnesota Sox have 1 more game against Baltimore Sox have 2 more games against KC Sox have 3 more games against Seattle Sox have 4 more games against the Rays

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 08:31 AM) Because there's 0 chance that Detroit maintains that pace. They're hot right now but they'll come back to earth very soon. but will we be anything but a 500 team the rest of the way? I doubt it.

It looks really grim right now. Something has to happen with Konerko for there to be any hope. AJ has to get hot again. Starters other than Sale, Peavy, and Quintana can't totally suck. The bullpen has to nail down important games. It's tough to imagine catching a team that's gone 27-13 and looks to maintain that pace.

Offense fail

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 01:15 PM) Just off the top of my head, I felt he left Sale in an inning too long on multiple occasions (KC last week where it almost burned us, and the blowout when I feel he should have been taken out an inning earlier), Peavy has gone close to 120 picthes a couple times It's tough for me to agree with that. The pen has been pretty shakey. Ventura keeps Sale in in close games (1-2 runs either way). Peavy has had some extended outings after a tough bullpen day. The Sox have opted for increased outing length at the cost of reducing the number of outings. Ventura appears dynamic enough in his philosophy that he'd favor shorting outings, but increasing the number of outings (no rest days, strict 5 day rotation for Peavy or Sale) if the pen was better. Sure, you hate to see those guys out there after 100 pitches, but the odds of bullpen failure go up if you're asking for 3 innings rather than 1 or 2 of relief. QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 01:15 PM) Septimo the other day in Boston when he clearly was all over in a situation I couldn't understand why Thornton wasn't in. To me that seems like an unfair criticism, particularly when you consider that Thornton gave up 3 runs the very next day against the same team. QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 01:15 PM) He's in a tough spot with the rookies and all that, but in general I think the way he's handled the pitching has been average at best. I've just felt the past 2-3 weeks that he's made some odd choices on who to go to and/or how long to leave guys in. And i've noticed more recently than earlier in the year More than anything, the pen is just a huge mess right now. Sure, you've got Jones, Thornton, and Reed who are all pretty solid, but realistically you can only trot those three guys out once or twice a week. A manager absolutely has to get some mileage out of the other arms in his bullpen and unfortunately it's just been unreliable all year.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 11:35 AM) To be honest, I think Robin has done a pretty poor job with the pitching staff for the last few weeks Considering the shape of the bullpen, is it possible to do a good job?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 09:15 AM) Project the Sox 2015 starting lineup and rotation from the players currently on their major league roster and in their system. Take a projection from 2009 and see how that looks today. For the most part minor league system and projected MLB rosters are horses***, even 1 year in advance.

I get the feeling yesterday wouldn't have been much different witty MT in the eighth.

Great work by Humber. How this is a good sign!

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 09:17 AM) GEE, WHY DIDN'T WE GET THE !996 ANDRUW JONES??? STUPID KW. WHAT AN IDIOT. Because 1996 was 3 years ago. Dumbass.

Is Axelrod wise than Stewart?

I'd replace Hudson with Lilly. As we saw in the KC extra innings game, Hudson has 0 value to this team. Lilly is at least a solid baserunner.

He's the best thing offensively we've had at centerfield since Aaron Rowand other than Rios's 2010 first half and MAYBE a month or so of Ken Griffey Jr in 2008. His defense does seem fairly average for MLB, which is a good thing by and large.

Is there any way we can pick up his $13 million 2013 option?

Maybe Robin knows what's up after all.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 12:36 AM) This post. And the funny thing is that at this point we're getting very nice production from all three of those positions. It's possible that 2/3 or even 3/3 of ours could have better second halves where I find it far less likely that one of their other position players (perhaps Fielder or Avila) will have a surprisingly good second half and outperform one of our guys. Both teams have some uncertainty with pitching, as it always seems to go. Considering Konerko's apparent wrist injury and Dunn's performance since May, I don't see how it's less likely that Fielder and Young outperform that group than Youkilis, Ramirez, and De Aza outperform Miguel Cabrera, Peralta, and Jackson. We do have a definitive edge at 2B (as unbelievable as that is), catcher, and both corner outfield spots. Assuming good health for all, the likeliest case is that the Sox maintain their edge at those four spots and split the other five.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 06:53 AM) I still don't get why so many people are saying this. I've people saying this on espn.com, Sports Illustrated, and here. The Tigers are giving up nearly 4½ runs per game, and they have a lot of games left against the top 5 offenses in the league (TEX, BOS, TOR, NYY, SOX). Their defense isn't going to get much better. Last year prior to the All-Star break, the Tigers gave up 421 runs in 92 games (4.57 runs against/game). The Tigers had an amazing second half last year. They reduced that runs against to 4.1/game. They scored 5.35 runs a game. They added Prince Fielder to their line-up. I think people are right to at least be concerned. Good news for the Sox is that they'll have a significant say in how the Tigers finish up, as the two squads have 10 games remaining. Even breaking even is a win for the Sox.