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QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 03:15 AM) Am I the only one that just witnessed some really stupid baseball and also a lesson not learned from yesterday? You don't like playing for one run with this amazing bullpen?

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 03:14 AM) C'mon. This bunting nonsense is completely bush league. On two strikes? At home? Nobody out? He's a joke of a manager in terms of strategy

Please go coach high school softball Ricky

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 02:26 AM) I think Dunning is running out of gas at this point He's also faced that team a lot this year. They've roughed him up

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 12:45 AM) Pretty brutal day on the farm Woof, nothing positive besides Rutherford and Robert returning.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 08:33 PM) Engel should be in CF next year unless we somehow find a better option with mix of defense and hit tool. He can't hit much, but he is an elite defender. If Engel can become just a .240/.320/.390 guy, that is plenty valuable with his defense in CF until something better comes along. small sample size but Engel is not lighting up the defensive metrics. Leury grades out as much better

QUOTE (Insp @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:48 AM) From reading this one would never guess that Moncada went 2 for 4 tonight with both hits being doubles. Hits were on 1-0 and 1-1 counts, fwiw

I have no idea what Moncada's plan at the plate is with two strikes. He can't keep falling behind in the count if he's not going to try and protect

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:55 AM) Why did Lucas get 4 ER? Shouldn't he get 3ER due to Leury's error? No error

QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:54 AM) All things considered, I consider Giolito's outing promising for his first MLB start of the year. Command of the fastball, Excellent change. Needs to work on throwing strikes with the curve but Coop will help with that. Homers suck, but when the wind is blowing out at Sox Park there is nothing you can do really about HRs. Some that would be flyball outs in other parks are HRs here. He pitched much better than his line will show. Fastball effectiveness was way better than I expected early on. His best pitch has to be his curve, so let's hope we see huge Improvements with it going forward

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 01:51 AM) When you can sit on it, the 2nd and 3rd time through the lineup, ML lineups are going to tee off. To me, always felt he needs to pitch backwards. Slow stuff to get ahead and then high fastballs up in the count

QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:51 AM) I wonder if he wouldn't be a better starting SS than the current starting SS Easily

Slow hook of course. That fastball got really destroyed last few innings

Wouldn't mind pulling Giolito now

QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:31 AM) I think we have a keeper with Giolito, but if he's throwing 92-93 vs 95-96 he's a #3 and not a potential ace. I think we all would be thrilled if he can be a 3.

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:30 AM) This sort of felt like a spring training start to be honest, focusing on one thing (the fastball) and not really worrying about secondary stuff. Totally agree

Missing right down the plate on nearly every fastball now. Gonna get ugly if he can't use offspeed stuff

Ugh, real bad pitch selection on 0-2. Needs to start mixing in some curves

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 02:15 AM) Like most pitchers, it's going to be heavily dependent on Giolito keeping his mechanics in check. If he can do that consistently, I think the Sox got a good one. If not..... Never really realized how much there is to his delivery.

Anderson again shows why he's one of the worst in baseball against a slider.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:56 AM) watched one of giolitos AAA outings 2-3 weeks ago and he was getting guys out almost exclusively with offspeed stuff. Tonight using his fastball. If he can consistently throw strikes with his fastball like this, his curve and change are good enough for him to easily be a #3 Yep it's very promising he's getting swings and misses on his fastball

That was glorious by Yoan

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:48 AM) Engel may be struggling with the bat but is playing a dynamite CF All statistical indicators are that Leury is better defensively

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:47 AM) Engel really isn't a MLB player unless he makes drastic, and I mean really drastic, strides at the plate. I don't get why people are penciling into the starting outfield next year over guys like Leury, Willy (who have actually shown flashes of being good MLB hitters), Cordell, etc. His defense is great but that means nothing if your OPS is in the .500s Well said

QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 12:44 AM) good lord...what a horrible AB Engle. Go up there with an idea at least... Kinda wish Leury was getting reps in CF and Delmonico in LF