fathom

He really needs to learn how to protect. Something he was quite bad at Charlotte with

This is quite a bad lineup. Just don't let PEDlates boy no hit us

Sucks, his season hit a wall real fast. Hope he heals faster than Leury has.

Rentals seem to have no value. The Giants got very little for Nunez.

Just saw a Rosenthal article about how much of a buyers market it is for relief help

QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 05:26 AM) Crazy/sad/cool to see it on camera like that. Red Sox

Eduardo Nunez just got traded due to being huggy with teammates

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:01 AM) Please explain then what we were doing when we traded for James Shields. How much surplus value did we create? How does surplus value work when you already have 5 of these same players and nowhere to play them? No doubt the Shields trade was a fireable offense. There are no excuses for it. It showed a horrible lack of scouting acumen for two players. thats way different than this trade.

Brinson pulled, but rumors are he's not traded. Could mean a promotion to replace Phillips, who would be dealt in a huge deal to either A's or Tigers

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 03:55 AM) Because it's July 25th. But there will be more relievers available. I did hear Hahn say last week that the Orioles putting their guys on the market hurt a bit

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:54 AM) Please explain THIS market, which we heard was a seller's market due to all the teams still in contention in the AL. All I've heard for weeks is it's a buyers market.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:51 AM) Carson Fulmer. You know I love Fulmer but that would be too much for what, 20 innings of middle relief/set-up?

Fwiw, in a much weaker Rangers system last year, Cordell was their 6th best prospect.

Sorry if I missed it, but what is his back injury

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:39 AM) The scout in the text to Dan Hayes that ss2k linked to basically said they are the same player. Must be same Sox scout that said Rutherford can play CF. engel has never hit for avg or power in full minor league seasons. Cordell has

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 03:34 AM) There is something called groupthink that happens, and it absolutely happens here. Compare the threads discussing what we think should be the returns for players, and then compare the actual returns for players. The difference is ridiculous. I actually think Sox fans are pretty good when it comes to valuing their guys compared to other fan bases. But yes, we always expect too much. I'm still waiting for ERod to replace Basabe and Diaz and Candelario to replace Fleete and Rose

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:36 AM) Already played that game. If we traded Adam Engel for him, I'd be thrilled. Cordell is a much better prospect than engel

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:31 AM) He is the 8th best reliever by era of relievers who have thrown 30 innings or more. That is pretty damned valuable. He's done it all. High leverage, multiple innings, anything we've asked. No doubt he's been awesome this year. He also bailed out some of the starters in big spots. With that said, I think it was Jake that made a great point about how he's one or two bad appearances away from losing almost all value. I really think you are selling Cordell a bit short

There are bigger name prospects in Brewers system like Gatewood or Harrison that would have been sexier acquisitions, but honestly Cordell has a far better chance of contributing in the majors.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:07 AM) Imagine saying "the White Sox will sign a guy to a minor league contract who will go on to be a top 10 reliever in the league. They will then trade him for Ryan Cordell." Oh, how glorious! If you take the name out of the guy they received and just listed the scouting reports we've seen by half a dozen writers and experts, we would have been content I believe. I don't mind getting possible contributors at the same position because down the road, the Sox will need trade chips also.

Definitely a buyers market for relievers. FYI, Brinson just pulled. Brewers making moves?

Thanks for yesterday

Wonder if Burger still ailing. Really bad game overall for him and Kanny tonight. Giolito and Hansen had nice games....rest of the prospects were yucky

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 02:12 AM) What does ur friend say about Collins swing? He was more concerned about defense to be honest

Great start for Giolito, Hansen looked strong according to friend