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QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) If we are going by what we know, everything was seemingly handled right until the players got in front of media, specifically Eaton. I'm still of the belief players went to management and asked for Williams or someone to step in and have that talk with LaRoche, which I agree was the right course of action. However, if Williams agreed to fall on the sword for the team, after LaRoche announced his surprise retirement, Williams needed to have a meeting with the club and make it clear when media asks about this, you give the standard "This is a tight clubhouse, we don't need to go into what was said or personal feelings, this is a team matter and we dealt with it. We're going to miss Adam, but we have a season ahead of us and that is what we are focused on." Everyone needed to come together and be on the same page. That clearly didn't happen, and to me that's where the biggest PR mistake was made. Isn't this exactly what happened until someone from the LaRoche side leaked the story to the Pitt writer and Rosenthal?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:44 PM) It seems a lot of players are pretty pissed off he won't be around. Why is it necessary to piss off Chris Sale and Adam Eaton in order to accommodate Jimmy Rollins? Pedro Gomez said there were coaches who didn't like the kid being around so much as well.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 04:09 AM) I read on the Scout site the entire B1G went 2010-2014 with 6 total arrests. Illinois has 4 in 1 year. Oh and Werner seemed to stop just short of saying Tilmon isn't coming here. What changed, thought he was a lock?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:45 AM) So this one said new players stepped up and let KW have it. Eaton loves the Drake, Sure, when you bring in a ton of them, I'm sure there were a few who were with him. Lawrie I believe is one

Honestly, no one needed to be wrong in this situation http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/laroche...te-sox-ventura/

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 01:24 AM) Excellent interview with Scot Gregor on the Score on the insides of the clubhouse. I suggest you seek that out on podcast. Cliffnotes?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:33 PM) KW is the bad guy because he din't care that his GM and manager gave their OK for this arraingment when signing the player, and made their word worthless. Who's to say in all of this the agreement wasn't "he's welcome as much as he wants in the clubhouse unless it's a distraction to teammate(s)". No one in that pathetic clubhouse says a word last year, and the new guys come in and say something.

I just can't see how LaRoche would want this becoming a lawsuit. Does he really want to have his ex-teammates giving statements about if they do/don't like his son in the clubhouse?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:27 AM) Maddon said he wants no part of a kids in the clubhouse policy. He said it is up to the players to police it themselves. Same with Ventura. Too bad for KW that he's the bad guy cause LaRoche wouldn't adhere to the wishes of a few teammates/coaches.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 11:11 PM) That's not Jessie Rogers trolling, that's all Cubs. Yep....but I thought they don't concern themselves with the White Sox?

How cute https://twitter.com/ESPNChiCubs/status/710602614900019201

Groce shouldn't see another day at coach of U of I.

No shock, but Nightengale seems to be supporting KW during this: Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 31m31 minutes ago Several GMs have met w their managers today to review policy on kids in #MLB clubhouses. Most clubs prohibit kids from being on field.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 10:17 PM) I have no background in law, but I thought that was very telling as well. They don't teach law in the clubhouse?

Seriously, did any of these idiots read what KW actually said to LaRoche? The Cubs players/Manager might be dumber than their fans. Patrick Mooney ‏@CSNMooney 58m58 minutes ago Joe Maddon: “We’re all for kids on the infield. They do have their own lockers. We get them whatever toys they would like Gordon Wittenmyer ‏@GDubCub 2h2 hours ago Arrieta on LaRoche/Sox: “It kind of makes me mad to see this kind of thing happen. I want my teammates’ kids in the clubhouse.”

I hate to admit that it's Jemele Hill that made a great point, but for everyone asking if KW would have done this if LaRoche played well last year....would LaRoche have quit if he was coming off of a good season?

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:23 PM) If the MLBPA wins the grievance case (if it gets filed at all), do the Sox as an organization get punished in any way? Yep, Sale is automatically a FA

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:23 PM) Good, can't wait for the judge to way in on this crap. LaRoche hasn't even returned calls to Tony Clark about it.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:20 PM) Most important thing from that: An ESPN report that the White Sox players considered boycotting Wednesday’s spring game in show of support for LaRoche wasn’t incorrect but was also “exaggerated,” a source said. It was a thought among a few players that didn’t gain any more traction, the source said. Yep, and I like the fact that Frazier (and supposedly Sale) were the guys saying they had to play.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:15 PM) I HIGHLY doubt he'll "unretire" now. He's not a moron. He has to know all the hoopla surrounding this incident and I can't see him going back into the Sox clubhouse again. I see a pretty easy path to return, especially with ST almost over. There's a way for him and KW to come out of this looking like they came to an agreement, and the players would take him back.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:12 PM) I think that is taken a bit out of context. The kid is doing schoolwork that the school district gives them, and taking tests at appropriate times. I think LaRoche means actually being in school wasn't important. That is debatable as well, but not as much as what it first looks like. I would disagree with him if he did actually mean what was written. Personally, everyone should be allowed to raise their kids as they want in terms of school. From all reports, he's very well-behaved. As long as he's doing well on the standardized tests, LaRoche should be allowed to do as he pleases with his kids.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/03/17/whi...-laroche-drama/

This was posted 14 hours ago, but thought it was interesting that LaRoche's meat company retweeted it: Desmond Howard ‏@DesmondHoward 14h14 hours ago Hmmmm, I'm thinking that Adam LaRoche will have a very short "retirement".

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 08:05 PM) He has a perpetual contract. If JR doesn't want him to leave, unless he outright quits, he is going nowhere. JR won't let him talk to other teams. He basically is the White Sox president except for title. It's already been said that JR approved of Kenny's actions going into it.

QUOTE (skooch @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:03 PM) On the bright side ... MLB WAR Leaders: 1. LaRoche, Drake (CWS) +1.4 2. Trout, Mike (LAA) 0.0 2. Harper, Bruce (WAS) 0.0 2. Cabrera, Miguel (DET) 0.0 2. Donaldson, Josh (TOR) 0.0 Salary = negative $13,000,000