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Eaton has a good arm, he just takes too damn long to throw the ball. Avi actually did a great job last year of getting rid of the ball quickly.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 08:38 PM) Don't get me wrong, I have season tickets and will always go to games. I've just become more pessimistic that just winning will ever bring the sox to the cubs levels for interest. They'll never compete with the Cubs for fan interest, as the Cubs have the "outside of Chicago suburbs" market in hand. Sox just have to win enough to draw a decent enough amount to be able to have a solid payroll.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 09:33 PM) The sox spend in free agency. Robertson and cabrera just last year. Internationally they've done pretty well with Rameirez and abreu recently. I've never really understood what the neighborhood has to do with watching a baseball game. My point all along is that the attendance wont challenge the cubs even with more playoff appearances. I just see more excuses in general from sox fans to not go. They just have to win. The fans were excited for last year, but that excitement quickly vanished with the slow start.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 08:17 PM) I just murdered a kangaroo. you gotta be f***ing kidding me? runs? rbi? #facepalm. Chuck whatever the f*** his name is should be banished pete rose style for that garbage. a dynasty is forming and there's nothing anybody can do about it. Whole string of tweets makes more sense: Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 6m6 minutes ago Cubs fans don't be like Cardinals fans. You're better than that. Heyward will be great(again). Was just comparing some stats. Good day. Chuck Garfien Retweeted Luke Stuckmeyer I put it in the next tweet. Heyward is a great defender. Said it twice. Cubs fans so defensive. Chuck Garfien added, Luke Stuckmeyer @LukeStuckmeyer .@ChuckGarfien Heyward has a top 15 WAR. Seems you left that stat off. You've gone fishin' again Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 27m27 minutes ago Heyward is an elite defender. Had a 6.5 WAR in 2015. Eaton was 3.9. Heyward will be great for Cubs. Just not sure he's worth $180 million. Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 32m32 minutes ago Jayson Heyward in 2015: 79 runs/13 HR/60 RBI/.293 BA/.359 OBP/.797 OPS Adam Eaton in 2015: 98 runs/14 HR/56 RBI/.287 BA/.361 OBP/.792 OPS Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 33m33 minutes ago Jason Heyward is a great signing for the Cubs. No doubt. But as pointed out to me by @_TBOZ, he has an interesting White Sox comp...

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) You'd think so, but Heyward hasn't really repeated his 2010/2012 seasons in recent years. We'll see, I guess. About 40% of Heyward's homers have gone to RF in his career. Down the lines at Wrigley isn't the easiest place to hit homers, especially for a line drive hitter like him.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 09:21 PM) I don't think Eaton is sniffing nearing Heyward in HR totals going forward. At the same time, Heyward's stolen bases totals will diminish now that he doesn't get to face Lester 6 times

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 09:17 PM) I just murdered a kangaroo. you gotta be f***ing kidding me? runs? rbi? #facepalm. Chuck whatever the f*** his name is should be banished pete rose style for that garbage. a dynasty is forming and there's nothing anybody can do about it. No one is saying Eaton is better overall than Heyward. If anything, I think it's just people pointing out that they were extremely similar offensive players last year.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 09:12 PM) Well the Dodgers need to do something. So do the Cardinals. Chapman screwing up really put them in a bind. Dodgers will get Cueto and McGee likely Still think the Cardinals get Gordon, Chen and Buehrle

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 09:09 PM) NLCS of Cubs-Diamondbacks if Arrieta's arm doesn't fall off. Diamondbacks are so overrated. No way Greinke repeats how he performed last year, especially in that park. Miller seems like a horrible fit for that park as well.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 09:00 PM) The NL will be much tougher next year. It's so much more top heavy than the AL is. Half the teams in the NL are trying, the other half have no chance of winning 70 games. In the AL, some of the worst teams have the most talented players in baseball (Seattle, CWS, Boston)

Two opt-outs in the deal, including one after year 3

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 08:25 PM) and you'll be the only one. Congrats. If Heyward is making 4 times what Eaton is making, I'll take Eaton

My hope is that the sports store at the local mall has more Sox jerseys than those of Flowers, Viciedo, Dunn and Abreu

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) I think Hayward's defensive value decreases with his move to the Cubs. Wrigely doesn't have a lot of real estate in the outfield, which limits some of Heyward's defensive upside. That said @ 23M a year, I can't argue this deal one bit from the Cubs perspective. They have a nice window and they are Didn't the Cubs also set a MLB record for strikeouts in a season by their pitching?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 07:10 PM) f*** we need to sign someone. If they get a big bat, it would be a trade I truly believe (Cargo and Frazier the top two candidates)

If he really only got 184 for 8 years like what's being rumored, then that should help the Sox chances if they want to go after Upton, etc.

So guesses on where the outfielders go: Gordon: Cardinals Upton: Giants Davis (not an OF): Orioles Fowler: Mets Cespedes: Tigers

Gordon Wittenmyer ‏@GDubCub 22m22 minutes ago As expected, Heyward signed to play CF. Cubs plan to keep Soler in RF at this point (Schwarber LF)

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 07:58 PM) The Cardinals pitchers also all got pretty lucky this year. The team is primed for big regression, it's between the Pirates/Cubs next year. Wainwright/Martinez/Wacha/Garcia/maybe Chen is pretty damn good. Pirates desperately need another starting pitcher, as they really only have Cole/Liriano/Niese they can count on. Morton and Locke are garbage.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 06:55 PM) Thats because holiday and adams were out with injuries and molina was trying to play with a tirn ucl in his thumb. And Peralta/Wong were completely worn down due to having to play so much

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 07:53 PM) To be honest, after this move, I would think Theo is on the horn almost immediately with Hahn (amongst other GM's) trying to see if he can get one of our cost controlled front-line starters. Get the Cubs & Dodgers in a bidding war. Even though I said Fernandez before, I think it's very likely to be Carrasco, Salazar or Ross.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 06:51 PM) Interestingly enough after reading our good old friend Bruce Levines Twitter about the Cubs money. He wrote this morning that we(White Sox) have ZERO dollars for trades and free agents. Amusing because that's clearly not the case. He said this in the Sox article "Chicago still has a sufficient amount of payroll dollars to add a free agent or another veteran through trade."

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 06:48 PM) Baseball is fun because of that, nothing is guaranteed, that said they "should" be a beast for the next 5 years or so. They were even before this offseason started...just have to hope for sophomore slumps and Zobrist/Lackey showing their age.

Wouldn't be that shocking if Cubs were going after Jose Fernandez this entire time. Soler/Baez/Contreras/Hendricks/Torres could easily get it done.

Hell no to Fowler with the QO included