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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 01:55 AM) What a bizarre atmosphere. Both of these organizations should be ashamed of themselves for letting it get to the point where this series isn't even interesting for the fans Kenny Williams is much smarter than we give him credit for. No doubt he would have been on a very hot seat if he stayed behind.

Just please don't get no hit tonight

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 01:44 AM) what the f*** Garza? What happened?

Micah Johnson 2-2 against a very tough LHP

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 12:32 AM) On paper, the Sox were a contender in this pathetic division this year. I'd venture to say Robin has done one of the worst managing jobs since Bevington. The team plays buffoon-like baseball. Yes, I'd think one win in four tries against the equally pathetic Cubs is not too much to ask. To not win one, to me, shows lack of respect for the game of baseball and Sox fans. I do care about the Cub series. The reason "nobody cares" is the Sox suck this year. You could say "nobody cares" about any Sox game the rest of the year if you want to play that game. They don't

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 8, 2013 -> 10:52 PM) That is totally my rationale right now. Take a Carlos Sanchez for a example. Best case scenario for him is Jeff Keppinger. When you have a guy with a potential 70 power number, how can you not rank him ahead of a Sanchez, even if Sanchez is closer to the majors. Yep, it's similar to why relief pitchers are never highly rated prospects.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 8, 2013 -> 10:26 PM) Not many busts hit 25 homers and drove in 80 last year. SOX are way, way, way better off keeping Tank around for another year before giving up on him. I agree that they'd be selling on him low right now. I also wonder why he is the scapegoat right now when so many others are making even worse mistakes than him.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 8, 2013 -> 10:33 PM) True, but he makes a bit more than what a normal bust makes. I could see a Viciedo for Smoak or B. Wallace type deal (just based on the Sox liking Wallace in the past). Viciedo is better than both of those guys, so maybe they'd get more in return as well.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 8, 2013 -> 08:30 PM) My old man is a die hard Cards fan. I was raised to be a Cardinals fan. I defected in the early 90s because I was very young and I couldn't watch Cardinals games and I certainly couldn't be a Cubs fan. And Frank Thomas and Robin Ventura. But it does allow me to always follow the Cards and root for them in a secondary manner, but f*** if I actually care. But damn, they are well-run, and hopefully the White Sox can find some way to emulate their entire system. I'll always root for the Cardinals (unless they're playing the Sox) due to them being in the same division as the Cubs.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 8, 2013 -> 08:52 PM) There's a whole lot of talent in there, but you're right with this. And he's getting worse every day it seems, so worth trying the doghouse format. He'd be a great for a "bust for bust" change of scenery type trade

Viciedo definitely in the dog house. However, with this season in the tank, you need to see what he can do. I have no problem sending a message to him, so hopefully he gets out of the dog house soon.

Operation Destroy Garza's Trade Value

Back-to-back HR for Hawkins and Ravelo!

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 09:32 PM) I'll put it this way. Quintana, Santiago and even Snodgress probably can pitch just as well at a fraction of the cost. The odds of Danks returning to Blackout Game/2009 form, vs. just being a really good 4 or a weak 3 starter (or another injury)....those scary salary numbers, best to move on if we possibly can. Snodgress, really?

If you get a team interested in Danks and isn't making you pay for half of his salary, then I have no problem giving him away for a mediocre package. I just don't think Danks will pitch well enough to justify that contract the next few years.

Innings is one thing, 115+ pitches is what I don't want to see (especially in consecutive starts)

If people are going to complain about Sox television/radio, I thought it was funny hearing Farmer say today that this Sox team never quits. Really Ed? The same team that's 1 and 38 I believe when trailing after 8 innings?

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 10:06 PM) I think we had higher expectations in 2007, so probably that. I think 2007 and 2011 are the worst recent seasons. This one will be redeemed by the fact that everyone knew this was a distinct possibility and there will definitely be a change of direction. People knew this year had a distinct possibility of being bad? Sure didn't seem that way heading into the season, in my opinion. I remember balta ripping on me for my 77-85 prediction

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 10:05 PM) We're four games worse now, have no star offensive players, and haven't played the Tigers yet. This team is going to lose 95 minimum, and may knock on the door of 100 losses. They need to come up with a plan to limit the innings/pitches the rest of the way for Sale/Quintana/Santiago. No more of this 120 pitch nonsense.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 08:58 PM) 35 runs in their last 11 games, 18 of which came in the DH against Cleveland. Sad state of affairs What was worse, 2007 or this?

After going on such a hot streak, Trayce in just in a massive slump.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 09:39 PM) They flat out blew it starting him at W-S at 19. The Twins just moved Buxton up to high-A. Why? Because he earned it. The BA top 50 comes out tomorrow. Safe to say Hawkins hasn't moved up into the top 50.

0-4, 3k on the day for Hawkins so far. It's been a while since he homered.

QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 02:48 AM) 118 pitches for Sale, the best and most valuable player on our team by a mile, after hitting the 120s his last start. Robin needs to cool it with him, immediately. It's not like we're going to win anything this year, and given all the concern about his propensity for arm troubles down the line due to his his pitching motion...Hahn need to pull RV aside and get him to cut that crap out. I know it's terrible but at this point I almost wish Sale would get some kind of a minor leg/groin strain that would keep him from throwing for a few weeks. Good post about the pitch count. It's ridiculous what's happening with Sale right now.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jul 6, 2013 -> 02:37 AM) Should this be the end of the road for Dylan? Not until E. Johnson is healthy