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QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:24 AM) are you going to find the wins too. Or do the players get credit for the wins and Ozzie gets the blame for the losses. Thornton's horrible pitching to Betemit had as much as anything to do with the loss. Having Ohman start the inning was stupid as hell

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:22 AM) Yes. But honestly, I don't care what they do, as long as they get good players back. I think the market is set up for us to make a bit of a killing if we go out there and deal some pitching. And as much as I would miss Quentin, I wouldn't mind seeing what Viciedo could do out there. So if we can get some good talent in here for Quentin/Jackson/Thornton, so be it. But can you say White Flag Trade II? As Jason said earlier, most of the possible trades aren't for low A players, etc. It would be for guys who can play at the MLB level now while getting Viciedo into the lineup.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:20 AM) Yeah they cant fix all their problems at the trade deadline What are their problems now outside of starting pitching and needing another reliever? Their pen should be now that New Mexico and Coke are in their pen.

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:18 AM) My youth movement: Quentin to Philly for Dominic Brown, Jax and Thornton to StL for Rasmus, Rios to Atl for Lowe(no youth but anything to get rid of Rios). New OF of Brown, Rasmus, Viciedo That would be awesome, but can't see any of that happening sadly.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:16 AM) Hell no....this division is there for the taking. Hypothetically, would you still say that if the Tigers acquire a starter like Fister and another piece maybe?

Great stuff in here guys tonight.

SELL KENNY!

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:13 AM) This loss is all on Ozzie. Another terribly managed game. I honestly believe people are going to be stunned when they see a new manager here about how bad Ozzie's actually been.

Can't believe he didn't hit that out

QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:08 AM) True. And I don't want to hear that we can't go to the pen in the 6th. If Humber's not going to be used to piggyback Peavy, what the hell is he down there for? I'm beginning to think we moved him to the pen so he'd be ready to start in case we trade a starter

QUOTE (Paulie4Pres @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:06 AM) Ozzie is a really smart manager. Pretty much gave this game away. You know no one will say a damn thing in the media. They'll be talking about the Bears.

Dunn has to look for a pitch in that at bat. Took the fastball in his wheelhouse, and then looked shocked to see the curve.

Swing the f***ing bat! Impressive balls shown by Verlander there.

Maybe we'll see a PK-Cashner moment here

Good eye Alexei!

QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:49 AM) More crappy managing by Ozzie. Had to go by the book, even though Crain was doing fine. Just brilliant. I wonder what excuses Rongey will make for him tonight.

QUOTE (Capn12 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 02:47 AM) I REALLY fail to see the point in Thornton there, he is either going to throw an 0-2 fastball....or a fastball...not hard to time that. Yep, you have to get him to chase a pitch there with a base open. Thornton is just immune to getting the clutch out at home this season.

I pray that we can trade Thornton.

Terrible, terrible pitch. Great thing we left Ohman in to start this inning. Please leave Ozzie

Thornton needs to throw a fastball shoulder high here

Crain got away with one there

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:36 AM) I want to say in advance that I don't like the idea of using Crain after all he did yesterday. At the game last night, I thought it was ridiculous that he was brought out to start the next inning.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:34 AM) And my middle name is Guillen. Not a chance. That's ridiculous, your last name is Guillen

Crain threw a ton of pitches last night. Hope he still has something left in the tank. A double play would be delightful right here

Haha, brilliant job Ozzie