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QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 01:46 AM) Get Bobby Valentine out of the booth and off the studio set. He is terrible! I seriously hate him on television. He's annoying, obnoxious, and ignorant.

So, this Pedro Alvarez guy isn't that bad!

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 07:15 PM) you actually watched the ESPYs? Yes, and there's some good skits and bad skits. It was also on a night when nothing was on TV at all!

More than likely that was Lilly's last start for the Cubs. He'll owe half of the money on his next contract to Mother Nature.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 09:00 PM) I don't think people "freak out" over Bobby giving up baserunners and getting saves. I just think they realize that a guy with a WHIP in the mid 1's as closer is a dangerous propsition that could go horribly wrong at some point soon. This is the most perfect post of the season.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 08:21 PM) And the only pitcher in our Org worth enough to be the centerpiece of a deal for Fielder is starting tonight. I think Danks would interest Milwaukee as well. However, I really don't expect a blockbuster trade thanks mostly to the Peavy injury. There's just no depth now (not like there was much to start). Don't forget that Ozzie is not the biggest fan of Torres.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 07:16 PM) Olney tweets Sox would have to give up Gordon to acquire Fielder. I like Fielder but I don't think Kenny would pull the trigger on the trade with some of the names being mentioned. I think it's a play for Dunn/Rizzo to make up his mind. It would make no sense for Milwaukee to go after Beckham, as they have Weeks and Lawrie. The Brewers want pitching, pitching, and more pitching.

Just seems like if we fill one hole with Fielder, we'd be creating a huge hole in our starting pitching rotation. As much as I love Prince Fielder, it's just not realistic to give up so much for him and then be handicapped in the long run due to his contract demands. Same goes with Dunn.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 05:24 AM) Wow, I really think we're short-changing Konerko calling him just "above-average." He doesn't have the greatest range, but he's phenomenal over at 1B. Isn't it ironic how probably the worst 1B in all of baseball, in terms of defense, could easily end up being our 1B next season (Dunn)

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 04:04 PM) He signed a major league deal for 10M over 4 years. I'd say 2.5M a season would be very very cheap. So he'd be the highest paid player on the Pirates?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 04:36 PM) Right now I think we might be best served dangling no one other than Viciedo. The Sox have a few young players that will actually be able to help this team in key areas. Beckham is one, Hudson is another. And than we have guys like Mitchell who hopefully will be 1 to 2 years away and due to the injury won't be getting dangled anywhere. Add in a Sale who has the potential to be an elite reliever or potentially a good starter and I like some of the young top level prospects we have. The reason I'd consider moving Viciedo is because he has a lot of flaws, however, offensively, the guy has the ability to be a complete stud. But again, there is the fact that he doesn't draw walks. That said, he has power to all fields and really a nice natural stroke that gives him the ability to hit for a high average with a lot of power if all goes well. Oh and he'll be cheap for a long time. Is Viciedo really that cheap? Not sure how his contract breaks down, but he was a $10 mil signee

I believe their playoff chance is .35 or so

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) I'm not sure there is much of a decision to be made in the next 10 days for them, the only moveable parts they have and are willing to deal are Lilly and maybe Lee it appears. The Reds and Cardinals are playing good ball too, and the Cubs are still like 10 under. I don't see how anybody can even imagine them coming close to playing 11 games better than the Cardinals and Reds in their last 68 games or whatever it is. I know you could bring up our run, but they don't have the bullpen, defense, or favorable schedule that we did/do. I'm assuming BP would have their playoff chances at less than half of 1 percent, and that's probably about right. 101, that's why I bring up this weekend. If they go out and sweep Cards and make up 3 games on them, they could then point to our run and decide to go for it.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) And fathom, serious question, not me being sarcastic or poking fun at all: do you still think the Cubs can rally and get legitimately back into the race? It would be difficult based on their remaining schedule, and the Reds/Cardinals having a much easier schedule. The Cubs offense is pretty dynamic now with Ramirez slugging, Soto/Castro/Colvin being underrated, and Soriano/Byrd being productive. Problem for Cubs is they have 10 days to determine if they have to unload their players. Hopefully Cards can avoid getting swept by them this weekend, and that will then result in trading Lilly, etc. The Cardinals desperately need to add some pitching. Unfortunately, the Cubs will face Suppan and Hawkesworth in Fri/Sat games.

I'll be honest, I still didn't like what I saw from Jenks yesterday. Had plenty of chances to throw his curve, and didn't. He threw one awful slider, and the rest were fastballs. His one true plus pitch is his curve, and hopefully he rediscovers it soon.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 12:56 PM) The question I inevitably ask every time this topic comes up is will there be a difference in Q's offensive performance based on whether he plays the field or not? We all know he is a horrendous OF. The question is not whether he should be playing the field, but rather, would there be an affect on his offense if he was not playing the field, and if so, what kind? Doesn't it seem though that if anything is having an impact on his offense, it's the constant bumps and bruises he's suffering from playing in the outfield? It's a small sample size, but he was great as the DH against KC.

Please tell me someone else was watching top of 9th in Dodgers/Giants game. I can honestly say I've never seen that before. Mattingly went to mound to talk to Broxton, took a step off the mound, and then took two steps back to say one more thing to him. Giants manager saw this, and told the umpires that should count as two visits. Broxton was forced to leave, and Dodgers had no one warming up.

Aramis Ramirez to the Tigers is a scary thought

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 02:10 AM) There were the days when jphat was MUCH, MUCH, MUCH happier. I was going through old PMs today, and there were a handful of messages sent to me asking about jphat and why was he such a homer?

Astros manager trying way too hard to get his starting pitcher the win, and it results in the game going from 7-1 Astros to 7-6 Astros. Wright has thrown 30 more pitches already than he's ever thrown in a Major League game.

Luke Scott would be a great fit and hopefully wouldn't cost too much.

In my opinion, I'd tell your fiance to just deactivate the account for a while. The last thing you need is someone to hack into his FB and start posting ridiculous statements that will get him recognition on deadspin, etc. Hacked or not, that's not the notoriety he needs.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 05:17 AM) Looks like the Bulls still have about 4.4 million remaining under the cap. What centers are left they could be looking at?

After reading that Cowley article, I'm now scared to log on to Soxtalk every day. Please don't let this be the actual offer. You could have a chance of getting Fielder if you offered something like that.

A mega-deal of Aramis Ramirez and Lilly makes a ton of sense for the Tigers.