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QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:47 AM) Alexei ain't getting the GG this year with our without Jeter being involved He wouldn't get it anyways. Makes way too many lazy errors.

Wow, I don't blame Jackson for being pissed. Good thing he threw a worthless inning last game.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:45 AM) Come on Edwin, keep that pitch down. Had a chance with that huge DP to get some momentum back. I can't believe how awful our defense is.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 02:38 AM) I'm fine with looking the other way. We've also had -0- issues so far with the first five transfers. It's not about the disciplinary issues they've had. I just don't see how you can develop a program by taking a bunch of transfers with a year or two left. A guy like Royce White makes a lot more sense than K. Lucious.

Heads, with all due respect, Iowa State should be ashamed of what they're doing.

Doesn't Jackson have a history of struggling after high pitch count games?

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 05:46 PM) Nice. Glad he is coming back though. I'm probably in the minority but I think Baylor will actually be better off without Dunn. Dunn was unbelievably bad last year. Still laugh how he was grouped with Kemba, Nolan Smith and Jimmer on ESPN graphics.

Didn't Pablo get busted?

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 02:50 PM) Also, it's funny to listen to Sox fans talk about how Ozzie is such a bad tactical manager. I've heard, on repeated occasions, from other teams fans and announcers and radio personalities that they'd LOVE to have Ozzie as their teams manager. While I understand many here at Soxtalk would love to see him fired, the fact is he'd have another managerial job with another major league team tomorrow. It's because they think his personality would jump start their team.

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 05:33 AM) i think the sox should work more on fielding drills rather than 200 mph canon ball drills And let the medical staff work on Thornton's elbow instead of rubbing dirt on it.

So Edge has to retire

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:28 AM) What does what you just said have to do with Rongey being an apologist? Just trying to put 2 & 2 together here. It's a stupid, hypocritical philosophy.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:26 AM) And it needs to be done sooner than later. Note that Hawkins was returned to the 8th inning spot after leaving the Cubs, and never returned to form...they ruined him mentally, and that's what Thornton looks like right now...mentally defeated. Pierre is a footnote in this...the fact that Thornton hasn't recorded a single easy out, or looked dominating over any hitter thus far is alarming...and it could end up costing us more than just a few games, but the best setup man in the game the last few years running. I still stand by my belief that last year physically drained Thornton more than we know.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:22 AM) FYI you kids who think Rongey is being an apologist, Ozzie said in the post-game that he wasn't going to let Mark pitch because he has to protect him this year and the decision was made this spring. Well, that's going to pay off when Ozzie's in Florida next year.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:20 AM) Note that the Cubs took who was pretty much the best 8th inning guy I've ever seen (Hawkins), moved him to closer where he failed...kept him there in hopes he'd pitch through it...and effectively ruined his career. He never recovered. I'd like to not see that happen to Thornon, and right now, that's exactly what I see, despite it bring early to call this that way, I am anyway...because it's my opinion that the same thing is occurring right before our eyes. Thornton doesnt even look close to comfortable. I'm with you 100% on this

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 04:18 AM) Sale? A rookie who hasn't exactly flourished this year? Santos? Would we really be any worse off if we left Thornton in the role for now? Yes...Santos is our long term closer of the future anyways. Put Thornton in the 8th inning, as he's going to be there anyways when Sale becomes a starter.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:12 AM) I believe Thornton deserves a solid month until removed from the role. I'm sorry. He's been too good for too long. I just can't believe the 9th inning is that big a difference from the 8th inning. It can be though, and who knows, he might struggle just as much in the 8th inning right now. His stuff just isn't that good for the time being. Can't keep blowing games though, as it's not like you're letting Mariano Rivera work his way through some issues.

I'm all for giving Santos the next chance to close. Latroy Thornton needs to shut down the 8th inning for us.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:06 AM) He's playing the "Have to protect his arm" card. f***ing apologist mouthpiece. Ugh, he's such an idiot. The sad thing is that the casual Sox fan listens to him. Does that mean he was mad that Jackson threw 120 pitches on Thursday?

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:01 AM) Rongey thinks it was the right move to pull Buehrle. Shocking! Well, that supports those that think pulling him was the wrong decision.

QUOTE (SouthsideNorthsideFan @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:02 AM) Bizarre. I wonder if there might there be a health issue? Seems so basic, but often vision or other (balance, perception) problems are overlooked. He ran tonight like someone scared of dropping another fly ball, and he almost missed that fly ball completely.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:57 AM) People need to admit that Thornton has also had pretty bad luck in his first 2 outings. Tonight was not about luck. Crisp's line drive was good luck for Thornton.

Can't we just go for having a stud lineup and platoon Teahen and Viciedo in LF? Times like this where you hate Pierre's durability.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:56 AM) I would have too. But Ozzie probably wanted Thornton to feel like he still has faith in him. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case tonight. Do it in a game where he has a little breathing room.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 03:53 AM) With a Juan Pierre in LF and a Carlos Quentin in RF this team seriously could use a GOOD defensive outfielder for the late innings of close games like this. Just wait until we see why Lillibridge has barely played outfield in his professional career.