fathom

Does anyone actually expect this to get better next year with Ozzie's extension/future with Sox in even more of the spotlight? For everyone involved, it's time for Ozzie to leave the Sox.

Borat

You have to wonder how low the TV ratings will be tonight for the Sox game? Easily lower than the game the Sox played on the night the Hawks won the Stanley Cup.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 10:03 PM) Score reporting that Ozzie met with Kenny and Jerry seperately, and he's saying he will be returning next year. Hopefully this s***show is behind us. Well, that's disappointing

Eastbound and Down off to a slow start, but it started off slow last season as well.

Jeez Ozzie, stop pitching Thornton multiple innings! His fastball is down a few mph this inning, and last time that happened, not only did he get rocked, but he was hurt as well.

Morel really seems lost against offspeed pitches. With his lack of power, he's going to have to learn to hit outside pitches to right field.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 07:52 PM) Yeah...the problem with the Cubs would be that there isn't a whole bushel of talent. I look forward to seeing Ozzie play for one run in an inning when the wind is blowing out 30 mph at Wrigley.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:48 PM) I love the way you guys think Ozzie is a buffoon. You don't think he's going to win and win big wherever he goes if the team has talent? He's no buffoon. Don't most managers win if the team they're managing has talent?

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:46 PM) Geo Soto would be hitting 7th and Tyler Colvin would be platooning with Mark Kotsay for the bulk of the year Is it true that Mark Kotsay said he doesn't think he'll be returning to the Sox next season? Saw this on WSI, but there was no source/link.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 07:42 PM) Hell, i'd love to see the Cubs as managed by Guillen. You put that kind of lineup in his hands, without the kind of pitching staff that he's been working with here, you have a consistent 75 win team. I'd love to see Starlin Castro have 50 sacrifice bunts next season.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 06:29 PM) Did you miss the month of June? I was there for 3 of those games, and swear the loudest the crowd got was during the wave.

So Manny, Konerko, and Rios get the day off, yet Ozzie still manages to not play Viciedo! Go manage the Cubs you ass and get fired after a week for ripping on the gay clubs in Wrigleyville.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 08:24 AM) While I like the passion and the fire I dont like this idea for white sox games. White Sox games to me and white sox fans are all about whats going on on the field. To me anything that takes away from the play on the field is meant for other sports or other venues. I think part of being a sox fan and going to a sox game is about being entrenched in an environment which is all about the game, teams performance, players, managers, etc. Dont take the purity out of the game and fan experience, leave the shenanigans to the soccer people who care more about marking a parade out of the bleachers. Hate to break it to you, but the most excitement I saw at the park this season in the 12 games I went to was the wave taking place in the crowd.

QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 02:29 AM) If the whole purpose of this thread is continual b****ing about KW, I will close it. Sorry, I'm not intentionally singling you out, fathom. Your post is just the most recent. No problem knight, I totally understand. I expect this trade and the negative ramifications it will have on our payroll next season to be even more in the spotlight if Konerko leaves and then Jackson is turned around and traded at the deadline next year.

Daniel Hudson, why can't you suck?

Another absolutely dominating start for Hudson. He's easily one of the best young pitchers in baseball in the NL now. Next time you want to make a trade KW...please don't!

This is like your girlfriend being so afraid that you'll dump her that she'll tell you she's going to date your best friend if you break up. Good riddance b****!

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 01:02 AM) f***, Ozzie was just quoted this morning saying how he didnt want to talk about all of this because he didnt want the team and his wife and kids to keep hearing about all of this every day. SHUT THE f*** UP ALREADY It's to the point that KW or Ozzie has to go once the season is over, and according to Peter Gammons, there's not a chance in hell KW is leaving.

Please go to the Cubs, Ozzie. Talk about other positions when you're under contract with the Sox is f***ing pathetic.

Screw you ozzie for not playing Viciedo against a LHP (especially one he's hit well). Can't Manny just fake injury so we don't have to keep playing him?

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 09:52 PM) If it turns out true that we passed on Melo to keep Noah, entire front office should be fired. Couldn't agree more, especially if the plantar fas flares up again.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 04:14 PM) I'm going to the game. I'll be sitting behind the dugout seeing if I can get Ozzie to do a Ron Artest impersonation. I love you Ginger!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 23, 2010 -> 11:19 PM) And back to 2005 for the last time. They didnt win in spite of Ozzie at all. That was clearly one of his best managerial performances as he played his cards almost perfectly from beginning to end, especially in the playoffs. Putting El Duque in against Boston, Bobby in early against Bagwell, leaving Cotts in to strike out the side, finding Bobby immediately after his blown save, leaving the pitchers in in LA, Geoff Blum, Willie Harris, aligning the rotation so Freddy pitched on the road, Dye in the 3-hole. He made alot of top notch moves that postseason and leading up to it, I am not sure how you can ever state the opposite. Great post Rock. He led that team to the championship, and he deserves a ton of credit for it. The reason I said 2005 shouldn't be taken into consideration is because any grace period needs to have been erased by now.

I hate how we can't even have logical discussion about this. When debating whether or not Ozzie should be the manager of the Sox in 2011 and/or longer than that, 2005 shouldn't even come into consideration.