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QUOTE (scenario @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 04:47 PM) The rumor mill is still churning on Kelly Johnson being dangled for an outfielder. Any possibility that Atlanta becomes JD's new team next week? Why would that make any sense for the Sox? If we wanted Johnson, then acquiring all these 2nd basemen would have been pointless.

QUOTE (R.J. @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 03:57 AM) Cantu's a pretty mediocre option (I like the term "not threadworthy") but if he'd come as cheap as Wilingham and Olsen, then come along. He won't...they asked for Jonathan Sanchez for him.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 03:54 AM) This isn't threadworthy... but what does everyone think of Cantu? Terrible fielder, slower than hell, pretty good hitter....and I don't trust for one second that he's PED clean.

They might try and make him a hitter.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 02:44 AM) In his conference call today, KW said he is right at the break even point now as far as payroll is concerned. That's scary. Agreed, if he's not bluffing, we're looking at a tough 2009. I can't believe how much stock is being put in Lillibridge, Marquez, and Nix.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 12:41 AM) Its not about hate, its about maximizing his money. Yep, KW should have just been quiet, as now OC would have a stronger case with the Player's Association if this happened.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 01:35 AM) SP Buehrle SP Lowe SP Danks SP Floyd SP Richard (possibly Daniel Cabrera) You think KW can actually negotiate a deal with Boras? It's bound to happen sometime.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 01:34 AM) Abreu doesn't even steal bases via speed anymore, at his point in his career it's about 90% savvy. He's an excellent base runner but he's not particularly fast. That's what I meant. Like you said, he's slow in the field, but has great instincts on the bases. However, he's the type of guy who could easily just shut it down and stop trying to be a threat on the bases as he gets older.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 5, 2008 -> 01:24 AM) I just don't see the logic in swapping out Dye and essentially replacing him with Abreu. Speed on the bases

One thing to keep in mind about Sheets: prior to the Sox trading for Garcia about 5 years ago, KW's main target was said to be Sheets.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 10:59 PM) I would say plan B is a FA bat worth about 2 years 18-22 million with an option for a 3rd. cough Abreu cough

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 11:56 PM) Heres my cryptic guess: FA signing (semi large) 3 years about 35-50 million My guess on who that would be: Ben Sheets

Poreda, Brian Anderson, and Wilson Betemit for Nate McLouth.

I know I should know better, but KW better be bluffing.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 07:07 PM) Well, maybe not. Think about these alternatives: --Alexei in CF, Getz or Nix at 2B or --Anderson or Owens in CF, Alexei at 2B So really, its a comparison of Getz/Nix and Anderson/Owens. Which would you rather have? I personally think that Getz is going to be a solid major league 2B, but I know I am in the minority. So I'd prefer not starting Owens/Anderson. Give me Anderson over the 2b combo.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 06:02 PM) I really hope he doesn't accept. But, if he does, I would not be opposed to Alexei moving to CF, thus (hopefully) solving that problem. That does make the team a bit stronger, unless Alexei is awful in CF. If OC accepts, you have to keep Alexei at 2B.

Just go away OC, just go away. No one in the organization wants you here.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 06:48 AM) Which is just fine by me, because he seems to be the same pitcher as Edwin Jackson, just without the publicity of a playoff birth. Any team that signs Cabrera better do a physical before it's announced, as there's a decent chance he's going to need major surgery.

QUOTE (SEALgep @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 05:28 AM) MB Floyd Danks Bailey Marquez Yikes

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 03:33 AM) The Georgia Tech/Penn State game was more interesting than I expected. Gani Lawal is a beast. Lawal's awesome now, he's going to be a lottery pick after this season. Hewitt's one of the worst coaches in America. He's had a ton of NBA talent on his team in recent years, and they've had nothing to show for it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 01:08 AM) Maybe he will be in jail if Wilder implicates him, lol. Wouldn't that be a shocker? Not really, there's a lot of baseball executives who hope this story fades away.

Frankie was a much better finisher than McCamey is. The biggest issue Illini fans should have with Weber is his team's inability to hold onto the lead. Too often, his team takes the air out of the ball when leading and there's less than 10 minutes left in the game, and that has resulted in disasterous consequences the last 3 years.

QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 08:26 PM) From mlbtraderumors.com Unless KW has a master plan with free agency, he really shouldn't go through with this.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 05:33 PM) I don't know about that. Nix was released by Colorado. The reason is he isn't very good. Lillibridge hit .220 in AAA. You basically have Getz at 2B. KW has always had a hard on for Hudson, and even KW can't complain about money now so Furcal should be considered. They still don't have anyone to leadoff and Ramirez can always play CF or even LF if Dye is moved and Quentin goes to RF, when Beckham is ready if they really plan to keep Beckham at SS. I'm still of the opinion that Alexei will be a disaster defensively at SS.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 04:23 PM) It has nothing to do with stocking the minor league system, but more in line with having a younger team core develop together and then using the extra money to fill those holes with FA acquisitions. To be able to do all of that we needed to get younger on the MLB team and more talented in the minors. Up until a few hours ago, I thought the Sox were looking hard at Furcal and Hudson. However, after reviewing these recent moves, we have so much "depth" with regards to middle infielders that it wouldn't make sense to sign one of these guys.