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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:18 AM) I just wonder why Ozzie hasn't snapped. But I think it might be because he realizes how laughable his everyday lineup has been most of the year. Either way, something has to happen and fast, imo, to get this s*** back together. When you have the same cast of characters for a few seasons, how is snapping going to get them going? They've seen it and heard it all from him. How come no one has mentioned that maybe our pitchers are just dead tired from last year, as they had to throw a ton of innings and made a few starts on short rest (well worth it at the time)?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:17 AM) I should start scouting who the top pick in next years draft is going to be, haha. Already thinking about that. I have a vision of the 7th pick in the draft. Teams that should be worse, with regards to record, are Pittsburgh, San Diego, Houston, Washington and Baltimore.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:15 AM) I want to know what the f*** is up with Guillen. Aside from getting tossed in the Tribe game for protecting the Indians players he hasn't done a f***ing thing. I wonder if he's quietly pissed about what he was handed this season? That or the Sox brass has another plan in mind and is truthfully planning on tearing things apart and going into a rebuilding mode for at least this season. I shared this in chat, but Ozzie and KW disagree on going young right now. KW wants to see an infusion of young players on the roster, and Ozzie wants to ride it out with the veterans for a while longer. This was perfectly illustrated in his Beckham/Poreda comments.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:13 AM) I woudln't exactly say that danks has had a nightmare season. One bad start and I do recall quite a few people expecting Quentin to have a bit of a rebound. Wrist injuries are tough to come back from, plus his swing doesn't look near as quick as it did last season. I expect Floyd to get his s*** together though, same with Alexei and Quentin. I actually think Alexei will be just fine. Of the 4, he's the one I think has the best chance of matching last year's numbers. Gavin, of course, scares the hell out of me.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:12 AM) He is the least of the worries on this team. Losing to Toronto isn't problem. The problem with this team is the corpseball mentality. If you're referring to Ozzie, isn't he responsible for some of that? If he's supposed to be a great motivator, then how in the hell is this team so flat to start every game. FWIW, this has been Ozzie's best year at handling the pitchers. He's had a good sense of the games we're competitive in.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:11 AM) I still think the best strategy is turning Fields to a team in need of a 3rd baseman that has a nice looking pitching prospect that is still raw or has some question-marks but upside. Maybe even a failed first round selection or something along those lines. To be honest, I don't think he has any value. If scouts know about his fastball weakness, then so would GMs that would be considering trading him.

If the Sox fall out of things in the next month and end up 10 games out of 1st, I just hope they give Fields the rest of the season to show what he can do at the plate. Benching him for a day or two is ok, but when your team is not going to compete for the AL Central, you have to get some young guys into the lineup to see if they can be counted on the following year.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:07 AM) Fire Don Cooper Fire someone! This is ridiculous...way too much deja vu in our games this year. Carrasco's going to log more innings than most of our starters.

Anyone in chat tonight?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:05 AM) Just watching the kids develop (Getz being a solid MLB player/grinder, Nix actually figuring out, to go with his off the charts D at 2B, seriveable at SS/3B, Fields HOPEFULLY putting it together, also getting his D at 3B better, Danks taking the next step, Floyd HOPEFULLY getting back on track etc..) hopefully should be nice to watch but yea I agree were just fun to watch anymore. Hell, it's sad that I look forward to see how the Barons are doing moreso. Nix isn't exactly a kid.

QUOTE (tommy @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:04 AM) Pathetic, it is 5 - 0 nobody out, off the wall double, Barajas just missed a homer. Carrasco's warming up. These 2nd year stars (Quentin, Alexei, Danks, and Floyd) are having just nightmare seasons.

5-0, Danks is getting destroyed. Broadway time coming up.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 16, 2009 -> 01:01 AM) The approach does not change from one game to the next. From the get go this team looks overmatched on certain days and they do nothing to change the tempo of the pitcher. You know based on the first four innings and many other games this season that they may get a run or two later when the game is out of reach after Broadway gets his hands on the game. I will use the Minnesota game yesterday as the kind of game the White Sox are incapable of playing. They look like they just do not care. It just feels like everything has run its course with the Sox franchise. New bleed is definitely needed, as I've never seen a time so lifeless on a regular basis.

About to get out of hand....pathetic! Another game we're not competitive.

This Blue Jays team really reminds me of the 2005 White Sox.

QUOTE (Brian @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:58 AM) I used to be eager everyday to watch the Sox, but this season, it's just not there. We're not very fun to watch at all in my opinion. It's been that way basically since game 2 of this season.

Ha...Konerko with just pathetic reaction time on that. About to be 3-0.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 15, 2009 -> 10:11 PM) I'd love to see a candid interview with Oz on what exactly a pitching coach does and how much he used on in his career. Ozzie was a free swinger who I would think used a hitting coach to toss him pitches for extra hitting and that's it. Why do people think players listen to hitting coaches?? You think Ortiz is listening to a hitting coach despite the fact he's yet to hit a home run this year?? Why do people put so much emphasis on hitting coaches?? It's a tired cliche to blame the hitting coach or the pitching coach. I would think if any hitting coach deserves credit or blame it's the one who gets these guys when they are right out of high school/college in rookie ball. Who cares what Ozzie did, he was not a good hitter. Maybe it's not Greg Walker's fault...but he sure isn't doing anything that's working. Maybe they just need another point of view.

QUOTE (tommy @ May 16, 2009 -> 12:57 AM) Dye flies out RF. When is the last time we scored ? Corky Miller's single....this is awful, another terribly boring game.

Cy Cecil...interesting that Hawk is b****ing about how we struggle against lefties we've never faced.

It will be interesting to see if Walker is with the Sox after this series. I have a feeling he'll be the fall guy. This team is just awful. I've never seen a team get fewer hits during the first few innings of a game than this team has. They definitely don't come out as intense and focused as they should.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 15, 2009 -> 09:44 PM) I think our best possible infield (defensively) would be Ramirez at SS, Nix at 2B and Beckham at 3B. Beckham at 3rd base would really negate his offensive numbers from a position standpoint. The best possible way for the Sox to have a strong team up the middle is with Alexei in CF and Beckham at SS. Nix should not be in our 3 year plan though.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 15, 2009 -> 09:01 PM) It's the wise move to let Ramirez develop at SS. He's the best defender we have at SS, and his future is there. He's still a project and still needs to develop. We're not going to throw all of the upside he potentially brings because of a rough start to the season offensively. I'll be very disappointed if Beckham's not our starting SS within the next 2 years. I would hate for him to be moved to 3rd base, as that would mean Fields and Viciedo (defensively for Dayan) were busts.

Ugh, I hate benching Fields against a LHP. If he's going to come out of his slump, it will be with a lefty on the mound. I can't belive we didn't bring back Anderson just cause the 2nd game got rained out.

The Lillicurse strikes again. Did Anderson get recalled yet?