fathom

Lovie showing no balls by putting Hester back on that kick return.

As much as I hate Turner, Forte's effort on that 4th down was horrific. He didn't follow his blockers, and cut it towards the middle instead of diving for the end zone.

The Bears deserve that. This coaching staff can't be fired soon enough.

I hate you Ron Turner.

Hester had a nice TD, but I hate seeing him being the focal point of the offense. His route running is terrible, and it's almost resulted in 2 picks against Orton in that first quarter.

Chris Wright had a ridiculous dunk over Maurice Acker at the Sears Centre tonight.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 08:43 PM) Well, I never said it was finished. Most likely KW would be flipping Javy anyway, and I've said numerous times on here the last few days that there was some rumored internal conversation around some bigger contracts, which would be the money we have saved. Lets say KW signs Furcal with some of that money and moves Alexei to CF. There are alot of things that could happen after trading Dye. I hadn't seen that you said that. I gotta give you credit, you were dead on about Dayan.

One thing to note...if the Sox do trade Dye, I'm going to be pissed that we traded Swisher. He could have taken over in LF, with Quentin moving to RF.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 08:33 PM) i agree. Just because Reiny wants to trim the payroll alittle bit, it doesnt mean he doesnt want his team to contend... KW and JR both made that clear. Pretty much JR just wants KW to be creative, kind of like how he was in 2005. Trade Dye for some young pitchers while getting rid of that 24 million owed to him- okay good. Now you have a good chunk of change to use on free agency or even aqcuirering a guy like Roberts via trade. I'm all for clearing up payroll for upgrades, but Rock's proposed lineup had no other upgrades made with that money.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 08:31 PM) So....its a bad thing to have room on the payroll? And I think the #1 and #2 hitters have a better OBP and better speed than our team last season. The bottom of the order also has speed and power potential. I really dont mind it at all. MPH is MPH, the guy is a 22 year old highly talented prospect, I would take him in a heartbeat. That's the problem with Bailey. He's lost his big fastball, and his command has never been good. He's another miserable season away or two from being considered a flop. I'm not saying I wouldn't mind seeing him in our organization, but if you trade away Dye, you better find some offensive players via other trades or via free agency.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 08:28 PM) Tell me this roster can't win at least 80 in our division. It wouldn't. Richard is a better bet to be a decent starting pitcher in the AL than Bailey in 2009. Freel is so incredibly overrated, and he can't stay healthy due to his reckless style of play.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 07:25 PM) 1. Freel CF 2. Getz 2B 3. Q RF 4. Thome DH 5 Kong 1b 6. Alexei SS 7. AJP C 8. Fields LF 9. Viciedo 3B 1. Buehrle 2. Floyd 3. Danks 4. Javy 5. Bailey Yuck yuck yuck. Not only would that team have a payroll of about 75 million, but it would likely cost KW and Ozzie their jobs. Bailey was throwing 91 mph last season, and there's serious concerns about just how he got his velocity up to the 96-97 mph range when he was younger.

I was dreading reading something like this. KW's been rumored to be after Odalis in the past.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Nov 24, 2008 -> 03:42 AM) Aminu, Rubio, Griffen, Harden (Arizona State), Patterson (Kentucky), Thabeet, James (Texas), Curry, Claver (Spain), and Jennings are probably the top 10 picks. Patrick Patterson looks very lethargic so far this season. I've never been overly impressed with his skillset. Watch for Gani Lawal to be a lottery pick, as scouts loved him from the camps over the offseason.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Nov 23, 2008 -> 08:21 PM) Top-3 picks unless something very weird happens are Griffin, BJ Mullens and Ricky Rubio. Thus far Griffin looks like the front-runner, and though he appears to have a ton of upside Mullens could pull a DeAndre Jordan I guess. B.J. Mullens looks horrible so far. Brandon Jennings could be a very high pick, as could A-F Aminu.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Nov 23, 2008 -> 05:34 AM) No he's not. Not if a team that is in need of a PG or SG gets the #1 overall. However, he's a top 4 pick for sure. The freshman class in college basketball absolutely sucks. Guys like Derozan and Hopson are mediocre so far. Speaking of recruits, I bought Gunnin' For That #1 Spot today. I can't wait to watch it.

35 pts, 21 rebs, and 5 asts for the best player in the nation today.

QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Nov 22, 2008 -> 07:56 PM) Where can I find a TV schedule for the Maui Classic? I can't seem to find anything without scrolling through each day's tv listings The world's greatest link. http://mattsarz44017.tripod.com/basketball2008.html

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 08:06 PM) You win the prize!!!!!!!!!! It's a great post, and luckily KW and Ozzie agree with me, you, and Sqwert.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 07:56 PM) If Williams plans on trading players with the obvious intent of unloading salary, I hope he has enough sense not to sit around for several months waiting for everything to unfold on the free agent and trade market. Can you imagine the outrage if he did nothing after trading Dye/Vazquez/whomever else for Swisher like packages? I just hope it's not a situation where KW complains about how crazy the market is. Was he really expecting to sign Hudson to a 3 yr, 24 mil dollar deal?

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 07:55 PM) His range is already all but gone, I can't imagine him finding it again at the age of 36 or 37 and I don't have much interest in a low .800 OPS 36+ year old, $11M+ DH. Plus he'll cost you a first round pick to sign. In all likelihood, we're getting a first round pick for Cabrera. On the other end, I don't think KW has much interest in having 2 first round picks and having to deal with those money issues.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 07:42 PM) So in what world is he a good fit for the Sox? He's an awful fit. Well, cause I don't think anyone will give that to him. As a 3 yr, 33 million dollar player, I wouldn't mind him in RF. Of course, I'd rather just keep Dye out there, but it seems like that might not happen.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 07:39 PM) Abreu was worse than Dye in RF last year, he's a type A free agent and he's looking for a 3 year deal worth $10M+ a season. He's asking the Cubs for 3 yrs, 45 mil

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 08:30 PM) It will look a bit better after the money is spent on a couple of free agents. Bobby Abreu and Furcal would make a difference. Burnett and Furcal? Manny? KW will not sit on the money. If these trades happen, he has a plan. I'm still waiting for the White Sox to get into a bidding war for a big time free agent and sign that player during the 21st century (not including Konerko, which was a totally different situation).

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 08:30 PM) It will look a bit better after the money is spent on a couple of free agents. Bobby Abreu and Furcal would make a difference. Burnett and Furcal? Manny? KW will not sit on the money. If these trades happen, he has a plan. Well, there have been rumors that Sox are looking to cut payroll, but nothing more has been said about that. I think Abreu would be a great fit for the Sox in RF. I can't see Furcal happening, as 4 years to a guy with a bad back problem doesn't seem like the KW way of doing things.