fathom

He swung at ball 4, and then gets aced by a terrible pitcher.

So when do we hear news that Adam Russell needs TJ surgery?

Let's keep playing Swisher against a LHP, and not a RHP.

QUOTE (Sox It To Em @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 01:56 AM) Donnelly the steroid boy warming up. Let him face Swisher then.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:49 AM) I'd bet there won't be that many changes other than the free agents being gone. The core of this team is still going to be our crappy, aging power hitters. I disagree...we'll see at least 3 new offensive starters.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:45 AM) Farmer intimating the fans have more faith and support for this team coming back than the team itself does. I think we're just going to hear some crazy, terrible things about the clubhouse in the weeks to come. I don't think OC will go quietly.

It's been so much more fun watching the Royals the last two days, as they can at least hit the ball. I'm pumped knowing I can root for Manny, Howard, Utley, etc. when I cheer against the Cubs.

Haha...pull these starters off the field.

Javy is now 12-16 this season. Think about that.....how f***ing awful. Yet, we made sure to pitch him vs the Twins.

Is chat working?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:36 AM) I really like Clayton. Me too...I wish we'd treat him more like a youngster than Terry Mulholland. We start him for 7 innings one game, and then we have him throwing in the bullpen 2 days later for relief.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:35 AM) Whether we win or not. These things need to happen... 1. Vazquez - traded 2. Cabrera - let go of 3. Swisher - traded 4. Thome - bought out Put Dye at DH and sign some guy from free agency. Trade for a pitcher or sign somebody not named Garland. Hope Linebrink can pitch next year. The Uribe era needs to end

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:33 AM) I really think Ferentz is going to re-sign after this season and take an NFL job. I don't think with his $3 million contract that Barta is quite ready to fire him, but Good God, his record against ISU and Northwestern is reason enough...he's going to land in Steve Alford territory, not to mention the rape case bungling that's hanging over the campus and 20+ criminal citations for the football team. My co-worker's dad is a huge Iowa booster, and said this is Ferentz's last season no matter what.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:25 AM) I have done a 180 on OC. I hated him the first few months but he has come around and I like what he said on the radio and in the papers. I'm on the fence about him. I love his comments in the paper, but it doesn't make up for his terrible attitude this season and poor fundamentals.

Is it true this is Javy's 5th start in 13 days?

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:23 AM) Isn't Grady and Victor the only Indians still on the team from 05? Jhonny

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:22 AM) What's the point of getting upset? Very few players on the White Sox are, except maybe AJ. We go into 2008 headed for 5th place I think. I just don't have any confidence in Clayton and Broadway. I think what pisses me off is knowing Cabrera and Vazquez will be the scapegoat, while Ozzie/Walker/Thome/AJP will have no questions asked about them.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:21 AM) oh yeah, b/c Ozzie doing that has a direct effect on this series. There were numerous Indians saying that it's given them motivation for this series.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:21 AM) Weren't you one of the posters who didn't want to see Richard or Broadway starting down the stretch? Unfortunately, we can't make deals after August 31st. I wanted the Sox to make Carrasco into the 5th starter. BTW, great comeback for your Wolverines.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:19 AM) Ozzie looks as dead as the team. If Ozzie doesn't step up, I certainly hope a player does. f***, get Horacio out there and have him start a brawl....he'll get suspended (a plus) and maybe the team will wake up. Can you imagine how much of a scapegoat Cabrera will be made this offseason?

This might be the most angry I've ever been watching the White Sox.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 12:18 AM) I dont even blame the players, I blame Ozzie. He has been brutal with his line ups, brutal with his pitch selection, brutal with his bull pen, and when the umpires have been shafting the Sox he doesnt even get up and fight. He just sits there and takes it. Ozzie needs to decide whether he still wants to be a manager, cause right now hes not doing s***. Don't forget he was the mastermind behind the 4 man rotation, which has produced 1 quality start.

Good thing a certain dickhead taunted the Indians in 2005.

But...but...but...he has K'd 200 guys this season!

Vazquez has to be one of the most disappointing players in Sox history, all things considered.