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I think we saw on that drive why St. Clair and Mark Bradley never play.

QUOTE(AssHatSoxFan @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 09:56 PM) has anyone taught Rex to take a sack and not keep running backwards, the NYG DLs are much faster than him It is like a 3 yard difference....at least he didn't fumble. In that situation, the one thing you can't do is get an intentional grounding in the end zone. Is there really a reason to criticize Rex so far today?

Oh Hester....that's a season ending drop.

Really makes you wonder why the Bears haven't tried that earlier. Either way, that was a lot of fun.

Illinois is going to the Rose Bowl.

QUOTE(Vance Law @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 08:19 PM) I'd like to see Nady take away some of Thome's at bats against lefties. I'd like to see Thome never, ever face a LHP again, but I know that won't happen.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 08:10 PM) you didn't hear? KW is now going to take a look at every fans projected lineup and get his ideas from there. 'We'll wait and see if something develops on the trade market,'' Williams said. ''It doesn't have to be a center fielder. We may choose to go the left-field route. We have a lot of flexibility as far as that's concerned.'' Flexibility = Jerry Owens can play either LF or CF http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-sox02.article

QUOTE(BearSox @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 08:09 PM) Hell, if we had Garza we would keep him and he'd be our no. 3 right now. And be throwing 91 mph instead of 96 mph.

QUOTE(rockren @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 08:05 PM) Every projected lineup I've seen the past few weeks doesn't have Jerry Owens anywhere near it. Whether you like it or not...the chances of Owens being in LF/CF next year are overwhelming. Which projected lineups are these?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 08:04 PM) Well the funny thing is the excuses for some of the guys we drafted. We picked up Broadway because dealer Kenny wanted someone that would be ready quickly and we could use to trade for talent. Yet its Garza who was drafted after Broadway, and he is moved for Delmon. Young would of been great in our OF. Thats the type of impact young bat we need. So not only has our minors not given us some talent outside of a guy here or there. But now the trading chips dont look like they can get us anything. Its a failure all around. Hopefully Kenny gets off his hard on for certain players or we will waste the 8th draft pick on Danks brother. What an overdraft that will be. Maybe John Danks 2nd half debacle will lessen the Sox love affair with the family.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 07:54 PM) Well Kenny is still waiting for that market correction to happen. I think he does nothing. He is probably convinced that after Hunter got the money he got, and how Rowand wants a lot of mony that he is priced out of that market. He is ready to go to Owens and Ozuna as a platoon for leadoff. Uribe will be an expensive utility guy, most likely to be our starting 2nd baseman the minute Ozzie gets his hands on it in ST. Kenny will hedge his bets on the trading deadline. We will get the same speech we get every year on how flexible they can be at the trading deadline with the money they saved on not making moves in the offseason. It just sucks that we'd be huge players for these stars on the trade market (especially Cabrera), but our minor league system just blows so much.

QUOTE(jenks45monster @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 07:55 PM) Yes, I really have. The Dodgers are seeking a third baseman. The Sox are looking for a left-fielder. If they don't trade Kemp for M Cab and Crede is showing that he can get back to old form, the Dodgers will look into that. And I said Crede straight up. Crede and a mid-level prospect. Not Gio or DLS. Kemp's value is in the Delmon Young range. There's not a chance in hell the Dodgers would do that. Crede has very little value on the market.

QUOTE(jenks45monster @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 07:49 PM) I've heard a Crede for Kemp might happen if the Dodgers don't get M Cab. No you haven't. We could give them Crede AND Gio/DLS, and they wouldn't do that.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 07:31 PM) Isn't Cuddyer just going to move back to 3B? No idea, who else do they have to play the outfield?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 07:46 PM) I am a major Nady fan. I'd love him on the squad but I don't know which left-handed batter the club would be platooning him with. Jerry Owens, and if you sign a CF, you can have Ozuna platoon with Richar.

QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 07:45 PM) ...since the last Red Sox prospect Gammons has overhyped to push the market value up for his team. Ya, that Hanley Ramirez jabroni is bad.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 07:38 PM) Xaiver Nady is a good platoon player, but we don't have anyone to platoon him with. Unless of course we choose to platoon him with Jerry Owens, in which case if Jerry Owens is getting 400 AB's in a season, we would suck regardless of who we put out there vs. lefties... unless we have a dominate pitching staff and a much improved middle of the order (such as Miggy or Bay), which are both very doubtful. Times like these make me wonder why the f*** aren't re rebuilding? KW has all but admitted Owens will be starting at either LF or CF.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 07:27 PM) Or we could get him for free: If Boras is his agent, he could demand more guaranteed money over a longer period of time. Plus you also have to compete with 28 other teams for his service. Exactly my point santo....get him before he's on the market.

USC's defense is phenomenal. If they continue to improve, they can definitely be a national title contender.

QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 07:24 PM) Boras client for what it's worth. Ugh, sometimes I feel like we're a college team that can't recruit Juco's or partial qualifiers.

Ellsbury might be the most overrated prospect/player in the history of baseball.

QUOTE(hotlanta13 @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 06:49 PM) I think everybody is going a little overboard on how bad the White Sox really are. I have a couple of suggestions for some easy fixes: Sign Fukudome. Fills the leadoff and LF spot. Trade Crede for a 7th inning man. Put Fields at 3B. Trade Uribe for a bag of balls. Cut payroll. Contreras is our #3. If he comes back and performs, Awesome. If not, he have to put him out there just to see if we can trade him without picking up too much of his salary. Let Danks, Floyd, Gio and everybody else battle for the #4, #5 slots. I liked Danks last year. Hopefully another year of seasoning will be just what he needs. We're not talking about the Brian Anderson experiment here. Danks actually showed promise. Put Richar at 2B. Put Owens at CF. 1. Fukudome 2. Cabrera 3. Thome 4. Konerko 5. Dye 6. Fields 7. AJ 8. Richar 9. Owens I think that's a great looking line-up. I'm not saying we're amazing, but I'm predicting Division Champs. There's still that whole starting pitching issue, in which we might have the worst rotation in the division (along with KC).

If you put KW's comments together, Jerry Owens seems like a lock to be starting in LF next season. With that in mind, Xavier Nady would be a great acquisition to fill in against LHP. The Pirates are desperate to get rid of him, and you could probably get him for someone like Adam Russell and Heath Phillips. Nady could really help against LHP, and then just let OC lead off against.

Mitchell Report to come out in a week, supposedly. I honestly find it interesting how certain players are getting less attention than others. I wonder if these owners, like Moreno, know more than they're supposed to right now.

An outfield of Cabrera, Cuddyer, and Young might be the best throwing outfield in history.