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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 10:04 PM) Fuk? In regards to what? Why I'm confident he's Cubs bound.

BTW, I promise after he decides that I'll reveal what I've been told. Until then, I will hold out hope that the Sox get him. Hearing that mlb.com interview with Ozzie does give me a little more optimism, but I'd still put Fukudome as 90 pct likely to be playing for the Cubs.

QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 10:00 PM) The Sox have been courting him too and it goes back to last summer before he got hurt. How's this for irony after the stories we heard yesterday.....Piniella was telling Kaz Matsui during the recruiting process that he'd have another japanese player on the roster.

QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 09:59 PM) Why? Fukudome appears to be exactly what the White Sox need. You're bothered by everything else, but it wouldn't bother you if he turns down the Sox and goes to the Cubs, or any other team? I don't think he'd be a competent CF, and I really want our new CF to be a right handed hitter that can face tough lefties. Also, as DA pointed out last night, Hendry has let Fukudome's agent know they'll outbid anyone.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 09:56 PM) Have you ever heard that Fuk prefers the Cubs, or that the Cubs really want him? No one heard about the Halos and Hunter either.... Yes, I've heard from a ton of places, either in the media or from some people involved with the club, that the Cubs and Fukudome have been working on a deal for over a month now.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 09:49 PM) The Sox really need a OBP guy. Sox needs>>>>Cubs missing out on other players. Oh, and add a few hundred >>> I also have never heard one source say that Fukudome will go anywhere but to the Cubs, so I'm not getting my hopes up.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 09:44 PM) I think your getting a little ahead of yourself. I think the highest projections for Fuk are around a .385 OBP. It wouldn't bother me if the Sox don't get him. Hell, let the Cubs get him, and then not pusue Josh Hamilton, Teahan, etc.

QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 08:40 PM) Thome leading off? Lots of solo homers and lots of double plays. Thome doesn't hit into too many double plays (you have to make contact for that to happen).

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 08:30 PM) LOL. We don't necessarily need someone speedy enough to steal a bunch of bases at leadoff, just someone who could hit, but someone who could run some. Thome... lol. Of course... I realize you are kidding. No, I was being 100 pct serious.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 08:25 PM) I simply don't understand posts like these. We need better players. Rowand is a great cneter fielder and a great person in the clubhouse, and look what he's done in recent years. You can't tell me you'd be happier with Jerry Owens playing center. Only drawback is leadoff. Will we get a leadoff hitter? If we can get ANYONE decent to lead off, I will be VERY happy if Rowand is signed. When you have a 3/4/5 that can hit 120 homers combined, leadoff is such an overrated position. Why can't we just have Thome leadoff?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 08:21 PM) A .230 AVG with a .289 OBP and 1 steal and not exactly stellar with the glove doesn't make him a sure bet. He has shown flashes of brilliance, but a lot of guys do. He will need to improve a lot to be a contirbuting regular on a good major league team. For comparisons sake, Brian Anderson hit .225 with a .290 OBP in 2006 and most people thing he should be stocking oranges at Jewel. Don't forget that Richar will be useless against a lot of pitchers in our division (tough lefties).

QUOTE(juddling @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 08:16 PM) in the Sun-Times De Luca mentions the Marlins were looking for a catching prospect which the Sox didn't have to offer. They were waiting for a counteroffer from the Marlins when the quick deal was announced. If that is how it happened, if you like KW or not....there wasn't much he could do. He's sitting in his room waiting for a call back when he hears about the deal. You can't make the other teams deal with you. IIRC, i read somewhere that the Sox and Hunter all but signed a deal when Hunter flew out to keep his meeting with the Angels. then...BAM...the deal is done. Again....what could KW do???? he's makes an offer..if Hunter or Cabrera came back to KW and said 'Hey..this is what i was offered by Detroit. Want to beat this??" and the Sox declined then that would be one thing but i think twice now KW thought he had a deal all but done then Poof it was gone. Sure there's stuff he could have done. It's not like Rubelo is a big prospect. He could have traded Crede for a catching prospect. Of course, we would have had a lot more to trade with if not for the stupid, in hindsight, Garland for a one year SS when we already have Uribe on the books.

I wish we could wait 2 weeks before deciding who to try and sign. The Mitchell Report could play prominently with some of these free agents left.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 03:58 PM) Rowand's a pretty good player but I'd like to see a leadoff hitter acquired, and with Quentin now on the roster, CF is the only spot for a leadoff hitter. So I guess I'd rather have Fukudome, unless there's a belief he won't be able to handle playing CF and is more of a corner. The Cubs are going to sign Fukudome!

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 03:42 PM) If the money were the same -- which I think it could be -- I'd much rather have Andruw Jones over Rowand. I don't think there's a chance in hell Jones will get that little per year.

According to Bruce Levine, this is the most recent update regarding the Sox and Rowand. Also, the Sox are still interested in DeJesus.

QUOTE(joeynach @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 05:39 AM) If rowand would sign with the sox for 4 years 48 Mil would you do it? Yes

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 05:32 AM) Pass on him why? Because he would fill the leadoff hole and the CF hole? He would be a perfect fit. And Fath, Bailey was the youngest player in the league this year, he will improve. My brother saw him a lot in AAA, and said he wasn't topping 90 mph when he was there. I think people are really puzzled as to what happened to his velocity.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 05:32 AM) Our team is snakebit. If we trade Crede, Josh will turn out to be a sieve at third base. If we keep Crede and trade Josh, Josh will turn into a 40 homer guy every year. That said ... why not keep Crede? p.s. Rowand is going to help the Royals big time. I have no respect for Rowand if he goes to the Royals just because they would give him another year on a contract.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 05:33 AM) Well with the way Fields handled LF in the last 20 games or so, I can see why the Sox may have been a bit apprehensive about giving the LF spot, especially after the debacle that was Scott Podsednik defensively. Quentin is a pretty damn good defender, and too good for LF really. Yep, and it's inexcusable that Dye's not getting shifted to LF.

I hated what I saw from Bailey this year. His velocity basically disappeared.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 05:13 AM) Where would Quentin play under that scenario? You wouldn't have made that trade....I like Quentin, but it's amazing the expectations people have for him right now.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 05:06 AM) I was thinking that to myself, what could we possibly package to get Hamilton and Homer Bailey? You won't get Bailey, but if you trade Gio, Aardsma, and Sweeney, you might get a have a chance for Hamilton.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 04:51 AM) What was KW to do to get Cabrera? Maybe blame him years ago, because it would take a few years to build our Minors to match Det's offer. or he could have traded Garland for some good prospects.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 5, 2007 -> 04:47 AM) Thats what im saying. It would benefit us all. I like being able to move up. I enjoyed it in 05 actually. Come on, you know the last thing we need is a decrease in attendance, as it will lower our payroll.