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QUOTE(Brian @ Sep 18, 2007 -> 03:04 AM) Yeah, it looked like he underestimated his own speed and over dove. I can't tell if he even needed to try and dive for that. If he takes a good angle, it should have been a pretty routine catch. I still want to know, why in the hell aren't the outfielders playing deeper in that situation?

So there's a base open....why in the f*** don't you walk the guy who's 4-4 on the day? Pinella's not a great manager, but compared to the rest of the loser managers in that division, he's a genius.

It's funny how long it takes the Cubs announcers to figure out that should have been caught. Reds should have just kept Burton in the game and groom him as their closer of the future.

f***ing unreal....Hopper should have easily caught that ball. The Cubs are the luckiest team ever. How in the hell are you not playing "no doubles" there?

David Weathers looks just awful. I don't think the Reds have a chance to hold on.

I hate the aura surrounding the Bears right now. I'm not sure what it is, but they just don't have the same flow that they did last year.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 09:07 PM) Even I have to admit that was awesome. Great way to earn your 500th homerun. Before greg even asks, yes, that win was worth it.

Congrats Thome....way to come through in the 9th!

QUOTE(ottawa_sox @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 08:44 PM) Wow - a 6 run comeback to tie it in the last 2 innings. And without the benefit of our only accomplished hitters - Thome, Gonzalez, Kong and Dye. Baseball is just plain weird.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 07:57 PM) Good point about college guys. Gordon did wind up having a decent year out here but he did hit below .100 most of April and May which would have probably got him sent down with a suppsed contender like the Sox. The Royals stuck with him and he's battle back to .250 or so and hit some dingers. Verdict is still out though on that top five pick. I still think the draft is a crapshoot. If we could take the best available player on a current big league roster by finishing with the worst record I'd recommend tanking and root for losing, but not a draft pick. I prefer winning. I'd be willing to bet that Alex Gordon, in 4 years, will be better than anyone on the Sox roster. When a lot of us are saying we want the first pick, it's not to make the 2008 team better. It's to make the future of the organization brighter.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 08:04 PM) They scary thing is there are several people with the White Sox who think they are very close to being very good again. I hope KW isn't one of them. I am encouraged that Ozzie spouted off relying on Fields, Owens, Richar and Gonzalez in 2008 to make meaningful contributions probably means last place. It just makes no sense for the Sox to not go into rebuilding mode. They think getting a quick fix like Hunter or Rowand or Linebrink or Tejada will make us a contender again. The problem is it's likely we're going to have two very young guys in the rotation, and none of these guys are close to becoming better than average pitchers. Unless we can get like 7 or 8 pitchers on the roster to overachieve (like we had in 2005), this team is a long way from being a playoff contender. The pitching is only going to get better in the AL Central with the return of Liriano, the continued improvement of Carmona, etc.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 07:52 PM) Hawk really praising Saunders for shutting down the offense. The line-up is pathetic. It really is awful. With Andy Gonzalez 2 for his last 40 or so, is that really struggling for him, or is that just how bad he really is? Fields swing is just comical right now with how long it is, I don't think he can hit a fastball from Mark Mulder. Thome of course stinks against lefties, but what else is new?

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 07:53 PM) Anyone else bothered by the fact that his starting rotation has 2 question marks and one senior citizen? Everything about the 2008 roster bothers me. I really think rebuilding is the right move, as there's too many holes to go out and fill via free agency. We have very little left in the minors to actually trade.

Mark Mulder is lighting up the radar guns at 82 or 83 mph right now. I can't believe the Cardinals rushed him back from the minors for this. And just like that, Murton hits a 3 run homer off the foul pole, a few pitches after he should have been called out on strike 3. Update: So Pujols has missed two different 3 run homers by a few feet today. Aaron Miles is trying to make my all-hated team as well. It's just one of those years.

QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 06:37 PM) Why is Greene a significant upgrade over Uribe, they have the exact same tendencies. Low on base %, tons of strikeouts, mediocre batting average, very few walks, minimal stolen bases, etc. I have seen more than enough of Uribe but the Sox will shoot higher than Khalil Greene. I've been told that the Padres won't trade Greene, so the speculation is useless. I just think he'd be a much better hitter once he gets out of PetCo. You know I'm of the opinion though that Tejada or Renteria will be our SS next year.

Khalil is putting up some very impressive power numbers in just a terrible hitter's park. He'd be a significant upgrade over Uribe.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 04:24 AM) No I do not understand. a.) Wins may not do anything for the franchise "at the moment" as you say. They can help young players' confidence for the future and please the fans who pay top dollar to see the team WIN, not lose to get some draft pick who the team might be too cheap to sign anyway and will be four seasons from even making the big league club. b.) You say "losses could." Could is the key word. Since there's no guarantee, I prefer WINS. So NO I do not understand. Can you try again? GO SOX! Do you even realize how quickly college players who are drafted in the first few picks are making the majors these days? Guys like Braun, Lincecum, Zimmerman, Gordon, Troy T. Morrow, Verlander, etc. all made the majors within 2 years or so.

Never would have thought that 4 runs would be enough after that early start. All things considered, the Brewers being 1 out right now isn't that bad.

Here comes the rally started by another error on the opposition. Spiezio just misplayed an easy grounder about as bad as possible.

I can't even count the number of times AJP has left the tying run in scoring position this year with 2 outs in the 9th inning.

The Cardinals have left a man on 3rd base now in 5 of the 6 innings. I wonder which Cubs player will hit the go-ahead homer tonight?

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 16, 2007 -> 01:46 AM) Williams has anything thought of having Pods and PodsLite in the lineup next season, just play him a tape of the 8th inning. It's bad enough that they're not good....it's the lack of baseball IQ that pisses me off.

Pods swung at ball four a couple of times that AB. Who would want Thome to have the bases loaded anyways?

3 left on by the Cards already, including a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs. I've never seen a team quit on a manager more than they have on LaRussa. I heard an interesting comment that multiple members of the Cards won't even talk to him anymore. f*** this, Pineiro with just some horrific starts vs the Cubs this week. I hope someone punches Len Kasper in his vagina, he's beyond annoying right now.

I really don't know how Garland gets anyone out these days. Thankfully, we haven't extended him, as he just sucks now.