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QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 01:50 AM) thanks for your wonderful contribution to the board! i get a kick out of the hard heads in this thread that just b*tch and moan. well let's hear your ideas. oh, that's right. you guys don't have any. I have a feeling you're going to get sent down to the minors.

QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 01:37 AM) Good, maybe KW can assemble a roster of players who are not overpaid and actually care about each and every at bat. Don't count on it....if KW can make the Sox a .500 team next year, my faith in him will be restored.

Holy cow, he smoked that. That a boy Luis....I'm a believer.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 01:33 AM) The Sox have a grand total of 3 starting position players under contract for next season and a clusterf*** of questionable talent to fill a few of those holes. This team is in shambles. Oh yeah....it's not out of the question to think this team might be competing with the Rangers next year for the worst team in the AL. At least we'll get to see Vazquez and Contreras throwing 85 mph.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 01:33 AM) A little bit of a stretch, but Dye getting hot during this next month could change the franchise.... Would you agree then that today is the perfect type of game for us to lose then (if we're going to lose, that is).

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 01:28 AM) Well I hate to say this but we must look to rebuild the arms on this team. KW needs to make moves to bolster the pitching staff. Is there anybody on this team to get excited about? Not really... There should be an absolute fire sale soon. We need offensive players right now. We have more holes on the offensive side forecasted over the next year than we do pitching.

That's what we get for letting Brian Anderson and Brandon McCarthy join the team in Philly.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 01:22 AM) Kinda weird, but the last few weeks, I have really been enjoying "Baseball" rather than the just the Sox. It's a different feeling, but kinda nice just to watch baseball, not care about the standings, and just enjoy it for what its for. I really enjoyed watching Verlander celebrate. Now I don't want to have that feeling for very long(start f***ing winning Sox) but it's kinda nice. In some ways, I'm with you. I've been watching the west coast games with my fiancee lately, and they've been great. The A's games last week were incredible. I know I'm a pathetic asshole for saying this, but with my belief the Sox won't make the playoffs this year, I'm following the Cubs/Brewers games a lot more rooting against the Cubs making the playoffs.

Verlander was throwing some sick s*** up there.

Nice at-bat by Owens against the lefty.

We should count how many times each game Hawk makes the injury excuse now.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:56 AM) I have to imagine the Yanks would be willing to toss in a lot of cash in on that deal. How would Abreu be as a leadoff hitter for 2008? Here's the question I have: why in the world would the Yanks do that trade now? If we traded for Abreu, we'd probably have to give him an extension. He reminds me so much of the offensive version of Javy in that way.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:50 AM) Fathom, remember how a lot of posters were calling for Masset to be our savior 5th starter after his earlier start of the season. He then returns to the pen and blows up like the rest of them. You sure can't be considering these guys as our saviors on one game and what's been happening shows that. My guess is there will be changes coming again this weekend at the latest. I think the more logical posters were saying he should go down to the minors to get some work in as a starter. He's been horrific as a reliever. As people point out, he had the best pitching conditions of any Sox pitcher that start at Wrigley. I'll say this though....thanks Nick for that start!

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:48 AM) Abreu with a 3 run homer off of Webb. Too bad the Sox wanted nothing to do with him. \He's now batting .275 and has an OBP around .365. I still wouldn't want him due to how much money he makes and how much he struggles against LHP. Also, I could really do without having another one of Ozzie's buddies on the team.

Two things: - Verlander has a no-hitter through 7 - Masset is a 2-game wonder

It's going to get real annoying if we have to listen to excuses for the next 100 games.

QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:37 AM) Could Fields be hurt? No, he was on the field prior to that.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:33 AM) At this point I'm just rooting for Dye to get hot as s*** over the next two weeks. It seems obvious that teams are interested in Dye despite his slow start, so it'd be great if he could have a nice two-week stretch where he hits .350 with five homers. Exactly...the main two guys I want to see do well are Dye and Fields. It just amazes me how much of losing mentality this team seems to have. Our starting pitchers seem to do just well enough to lose now, and we're getting no leadership from our manager or veterans. QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:34 AM) I will be surprised if someone in the media asks Ozzie about the move, but I would LOVE to hear why he did it. Reasons the move was dumb. 1.Game is already out of hand 2. Cintron for Fields. Cintron is NOT better in the field than Fields, and from what we have seen this season, he isn't much better with the bat than Fields. 3. Crede just went under the knife. Out for the year. Chances are good he doesn't see a White Sox uniform again. Fields is the very obvious replacement. See what you have. You give him as many AB's as possible. Ozzie's answer would probably be something like "He's not f***ing Barry Bonds".

In more exciting news, Verlander is no-hitting the Brewers through 6 innings. It would make me so much more excited about this season if the Tigers sweep the Brewers this week....not!

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:28 AM) This is probably the dumbest move I've seen all year from Ozzie, and that's saying something. What exactly is the point of taking Fields out of the game IN THE FOURTH INNING? I don't give a f*** that he hasn't hit the ball in his short time up here, he needs to play. Stupid stupid stupid. Masset is probably a better hitter than Cintron right now.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:27 AM) It's definitely time for Kenny to work the phones, unfortunately. Call me a Dark Cloud, or whatever, but this team just looks DEAD. If someone will offer ML-ready or near-ready young players, it's time to make those moves. Thing is, no one other than Jenks (who I wouldn't deal under any circumstances) looks good enough to bring much in trade right now. Buehrle! Buehrle! Buehrle! We need to make a final offer, and if he says no, see ya Mark.

QUOTE(spiderman @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:25 AM) Gentlemen, I know we all love the Sox, but at some point, when do we stop being upset and just accept reality that we don't have a good team this season. When does Kenny pull the plug ? This has to be the least upset I've ever been during a Sox debacle. Deep down in my heart, I know it's for the best if they keep losing for a while. Last night was the first time in at least 5 years I didn't bother watching a single highlight of a Sox game I missed.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:24 AM) What the f*** is Ozzie doing?!?!?!? Double switch Fields out of the game? Are you f***ing kidding me? I wonder who will be the first one to take the fall if this massive losing tendency continues. I was told yesterday how a scout watched the Sox all last week (Pirates, I believe), and he said the Sox were the worst coached team he's seen all year.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 12:23 AM) Little league fundamentals by Dye. No chance at the runner at home, he throws it in and the trailer goes into the 2nd. We're well-coached all around.

Double switch already? I'm happy we're not an NL team, because Ozzie would piss me off even more.