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QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 28, 2007 -> 01:06 PM) Because we forgot that a 24-year-old being in the top 3 of almost every major pitching category in AA is s*** in comparison to a guy lighting up low-A ball. Egbert has four very solid pitches and knows how to pitch, while DLS has two good pitches and needs to develop a third. Don't get me wrong, DLS obviously has more upside than Egbert, but until DLS starts flashing a changeup with consistency, Egbert and Gio will take over for him. As for my Top 10: 1) Gonzalez (by a hair) 2) Egbert 3) DLS 4) Carter 5) Richar 6) Sean Burroughs II 7) Poreda 8) Broadway 9) McCullouch 10) Oneli I'm not saying DLS is a better pitcher. But when it comes to prospect rankings, you know the hard throwing guy with the sexy stats is going to be ranked higher. This wasn't a shot at Egbert....rather, I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised by how high DLS is ranked next year.

Only on this site would Egbert be higher than DLS

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 09:33 PM) Dubee might also be part of a bigger package before the deadline, too. Ya never know. Oh grief, can we please stop this line of thinking now. We kept saying this about every guy we acquired last offseason, and rarely does that quick turnaround happen.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 09:27 PM) Well, you'll be disappointed because Richar can't hit LHP either. I know, and I expect Ozuna to platoon with him next year. I'd be fine with that platoon. However, you and I both know that the expectations people have for our return package in trades is insane. In all honesty, the only two players we could trade that would really piss me off if we don't get good value for are Garland and Vazquez (or if we trade Dye to the Cubs).

QUOTE(Sox It To Em @ Jul 27, 2007 -> 09:23 PM) I think I'm going to be sick. Why, this is a good thing we traded him. I was fearful we'd bring him back. We need someone who can play better defense and not absolutely suck vs LHP.

Didn't expect much in dealing with Iguchi, and that's what we got. Just remember, KW is horrible at trading his veteran players for prospects. And please stop talking about how we cost ourselves compensation picks, as that's not accurate. Now let's hope Richar shows he can be a major league player.

For Max Ramirez

No one played Baseball Stars? Every batter on the American Dreams was like facing Barry Bonds in his prime.

Yes to Dye, hell no to Pods

Not pitching again tonight. It's been quite a while since he last went.

QUOTE(SoxFan77 @ Jul 26, 2007 -> 09:44 PM) KW is stupid enough to believe that we still have a shot.. Not make moves that help us going forward. He will again look for quick fixes so we can finish .500. Also I don't see us competing until 09/10 time and that is if KW starts now in the trading process and rebuilds this team.. if he can. KW doesn't think we have a shot.....he was trying to unload guys two months ago.

I didn't mind the extension, as I would have never thought his stuff would deteriorate this much. Of course, I wanted the Sox to trade him for Adam Dunn after the WS season.

QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Jul 26, 2007 -> 09:07 PM) As for the people who are angsting and concerned Podsednik will be back in 2008, I believe that ship has sailed. They want to retool the team. Yep, and KW is fed-up with Pods injury issues. On a side note, I hate saying this after a win, because it negates from the actual point, but this was one of Ozzie's best managed games this year. He took Danks out at the perfect time, he put in his closer in a situation to give his team a chance to win the game at home with one run in their last at-bat, and calling for the bunt from Fields.

It's a joke right now that the Braves keep playing Franco at 1b.

QUOTE(bigred3535 @ Jul 26, 2007 -> 08:15 PM) Baseball Prospectus just released their new prospect rankings for second base and Danny Richar was the 7th ranked prospect: I'm glad we have at least one position player in the upper minors to be kind of optimistic about. He's been tearing it up at AAA and could probably at least match Iguchi's production right now. I was against the Cunnigham trade at first but if Richar can hit .270/.340/.430 or higher in majors for us for a couple of years I'd say we'll have won it. Also, in case anyone's wondering, Chris Carter was the 5th rated first baseman. Are you sure it wasn't the Chris Carter in the Dbacks system?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2007 -> 08:08 PM) Zumaya and Rodney will still be back before the playoffs hit. That's some heavy reinforcements Hasn't Rodney sucked all year?

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 26, 2007 -> 08:07 PM) I have been following the rest of the league a lot closer since the Sox have been out of it, and I still beleive the Braves-Mets-Pads(when Peavy and Young are both healthy) and maybe even the Phils have better squads than the Cubs. Peavy's the type of guy that seems to have to be 100 pct in order to be dominant. If not, he reverts more to being an average pitcher. I love the Phillies right now, but their pitching is just brutal. Their game last night was fun as hell to watch.

I think Boston's the best team in the AL. Hawk keeps saying it's the Tigers, but then he talks about how the Sox could never be good this year because their bullpen has been bad. The Red Sox bullpen is amazing compared to the Tigers.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jul 26, 2007 -> 08:00 PM) I am so pissed off right now. Come on Cubs ... start sucking :fthecubs The Cubs are the best team in baseball right now. It won't go on forever, will it? They're the best team in that division, and it's not even close. They have two guys in Zambrano and Lilly who just won't lose now, and they have a pretty strong bullpen that's avoided blowing games lately. And of course, we had to know that J. Jones would end up contributing to them after they tried to get rid of them. At this point, I've given up on them not making the playoffs, and I'm just rooting for the teams they'll have to play to upgrade at the deadline. Recent injuries to Peavy, Young, Lowe, and Beltran are the types of thing that I hope we don't see a lot of down the stretch.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 26, 2007 -> 07:58 PM) Just wondering if you have been able to hear Hawk the last few innings, or see the zone. No, but someone just told me he's going nuts. Then again, why does it always have to be our announcer going nuts, and never our manager?

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 26, 2007 -> 07:56 PM) You able to watch today? Went to lunch for a few innings today.

It's true

Our pitchers have sure struggled getting the 3rd out in an inning lately. It seems like the opposition gets a ton of 2 out runs.

Cordero's suckiness on the road continues. Like the post above mentions, can we please close this thread?

The Sox will sign Eckstein to play SS....and we'll have to hear how Hawk knew he was good, but not "this good".