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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 12:52 AM) We can't really trade Crede or Iguchi right now though. We have to hold onto them until July, hopefully they get hot and as the deadline approaches teams get desperate and overpay. Because to trade them now would be the Cub thing to do, since we'd get nothing back. As much as we overrate their prospects, the Angels might get desperate for a 3rd baseman.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 12:52 AM) I don't think it's "officially" summer yet. Perfect storm, too, with Podsednik, Erstad and Thome all missing a good amount of time. And Iguchi, too! Perfect storm! I'm shocked, literally shocked, that Pods, Erstad, and Thome all got hurt this year.

He's one of the few guys I felt really cared out there. For his sake, I hope he didn't tear his achilles.

Wow....good thing we talked in the press about trying to go inside to Thomas during this series.

Heard about that Erstad injury on the radio. I hope Erstad is ok....but shame on you KW. Joe Crede, in my opinion, is the player that we need to move now.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 31, 2007 -> 11:59 PM) Grinderstad is slugging .319 in the month of May (not including today.) AND HE HAD A 13 GAME HITTING STREAK. Pathetic Yep, and he's going to continue to play everyday. The scary part is he's been making his fair share of mental mistakes also in the field or up to the plate.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ May 31, 2007 -> 11:53 PM) 3-4-5 would've scored yesterday in the 10th though. Make it stop

QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ May 31, 2007 -> 11:54 PM) If "your" going to have comebacks at least be aware he has had lots of problems in those non save situations and also it is very possible that he could have been rusty. But then again maybe "your" not aware of those subtleties. There is a game on tonite, yesterday is gone, there will be something for you to find wrong with Ozzie in this game, I'm sure of it. I see that all of the Ozzie haters like yourself apparantly have issues with people who have an opposing viewpoint and can back it up. I agree with WCSox that he does make mistakes but I also feel some of the criticism of his moves are knee jerk reactions by people who either don't have all the info, haven't considered all the possibilities, or maybe just maybe don't know the game all that well. First, this is a poorly coached team. Even if it's the players messing up, the coach needs to take responsiblity. Second, please stop saying Jenks was rusty. HE PITCHED ON FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!

Detroit has more hits against C.C. in 3 innings than we've had against him in 3 years I think.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ May 31, 2007 -> 11:49 PM) This team is completly lost. 1st and 3rd 1 out guy is thrown out stealing........well at least DJ and Hawk think Erstad is godlike so he's gotta be good. That is as bad as it gets. Through 3 innings Halladay has three called strikes and 5 guys have swung at the first pitch. Nice job making the guy who hasn't pitched in 3 weeks work a little. This is just stupid. This team seems to have no baseball IQ.

Anytime you want to hit a non-minor league call-up Thome, feel free to. 3 for 26 with 2 doubles in games not started by someone named Colby.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 31, 2007 -> 11:40 PM) Where is Jerry Owens? I KNOW Mackowiak is embarassing, at least give Owens a chance to prove if he is or not. Have you seen Owens play? I laugh at everyone thinking how he'll come up here and make a big difference. Mackowiak's actually been hitting well lately....it's just his base running has been idiotic. Erstad running in that situation is so stupid, it's not even funny. If Iguchi strikes out or pops up, then you take the bat out of Thome's hands if Erstad is safe at 2nd. That's a perfect example of how Ozzieball is incredibly worthless with this personnel.

f*** this team. Rob Mackowiak seems to get thrown out at home once a week also. At least things aren't predictable.

This just gets worse and worse. I don't know how we'd ever survive without Erstad's baseball IQ.

Ha, this is pathetic coaching. Way to know the situation Mackowiak. Nice to see Erstad do the job.

Nice to see some opposite field hits. Gotta get both runs in.

Toronto has some impressive reliever ERAs so far this year.

Another two out run. Super! This isn't even close to being entertaining anymore.

How many double plays is that for AJP this year? Seems like it's been about 10 in the last two weeks.

No matter how much Halladay shuts us down, remember this: Jenks is fresh tonight!

The harder we throw, the more we blow

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 31, 2007 -> 09:49 PM) If the White Sox are counting on anything from Barbaro the rest of this season, they need to go to therapy. Looks like my nickname is catching on! I'm already sick of hearing the excuses for his bad play when he returns.....and it hasn't even happened yet.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 31, 2007 -> 07:53 PM) Oh okay, so you don't use your best reliever in the most crucial situation when the leverage is highest. Thanks. And for the argument that he wouldn't be available tonight: I think avoiding the sweep against your main AL Central rival is more important than a possible save opportunity in the first game of a 4 game series against Toronto.

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ May 31, 2007 -> 06:42 PM) Look, I didn't mean to offend you Fathom. Nor was it an attack. I feel Ozzie has a target on his head when the Sox lose. I think more onus needs to be put on the players than Ozzie. Does Ozzie make mistakes...yes. But I think he has made more good moves than bad. Fair enough....we can all agree that we just want to see them win at a greater rate than they have since last year's ASB. Maybe we had been spoiled by the success of the 2005 season and the first half of 2006....but we all expect more from this organization than what we've seen.

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ May 31, 2007 -> 06:22 PM) And then when Jenks gives up the winning run in his second inning of work this place will scream for Ozzie's head again. "Doesn't he know Jenks wouldn't perform well in the second inning of work!?!" I have come to the conclusion about those who hate Ozzie... If Ozzie sneezes, you say he should have coughed. He'll never do anything right. I'm shocked at this comment. Anyways, go back and read the game thread. This wasn't a case of second guessing by anyone. Also, for as long as Jenks has been with this team, I've been saying that I'd rather lose with him on the mound than anyone else. At least he makes the other team earn it. He has a history of not walking hitters in big situations and doesn't allow homers. For the usuals who keep sticking up for Ozzie at every turn, what's it going to take for you to start to question if he's the right man for this organization and where they want to go?