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We better see a PH here.

Sinker ball pitcher vs ground ball hitter....please avoid the DP Mackowiak!

That was literally the same exact hit as the game-winner against KRod.

Jenks rarely throws his fastball past people anymore. I'd guess that 80 pct of his strike outs come via an offspeed pitch. Whenever Jenks can get 2 strikes on a hitter without using his hook, he has a great chance at getting that hitter out.

QUOTE(Reddy @ May 24, 2007 -> 02:16 AM) i wouldnt say its corpseball quite yet... if this continues then yes but i agree with fathom that i think tonight is just a bad matchup Only problem is that 3 of our next 4 games are bad match-ups. Time for this offense to start beating good pitchers.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 24, 2007 -> 02:12 AM) Corpseball is back in full affect. We score like we are just insane for 4 days, then poof on a hot night at the Cell the home runs swings come back and a pitcher 2 hits us. This type of pitcher is just a bad match-up for us. He never gives up the long ball, which is obviously the biggest strength of this offense. Guys like Uribe are typically worthless against a pitcher like this, and sadly, Iguchi has become that way also.

Give credit to Gaudin....he's putting his fastball wherever he wants it right now. As Rock says, at least this is another series win. It's going to be tougher than many think to win the Tampa series.

0 for last 17. With Mackowiak swinging better, I wouldn't mind seeing him get a game in the 2nd spot this wknd.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 24, 2007 -> 02:04 AM) Well we are going to tip our caps when we face Shields, Kazmir and Santana 3 out of the next 4 games. Shields is a fastball/slider pitcher....won't be fun.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 24, 2007 -> 12:39 AM) So true. Just wait until the Sox get shut down by Johan again. We'll have the "we can't hit LHP" and "we can't hit good starters" crowds out with their pitchforks. It's true though.....we look terrible against good lefty starters. I wonder if Toby will make us look any better against Santana, C.C., etc.

It's too bad that Sisco's suckiness makes have to pitch Thornton tonight. Man, Swisher without the hair swings look a stud against us.

QUOTE(greg775 @ May 24, 2007 -> 01:59 AM) The bullpen would have been just as bad. 107 pitches isn't that many. He was throwing stressful pitches from literally the 3rd batter of the game. Doesn't really matter though...our offense looks lifeless tonight. Anyone with a brain could see that Garland was battling tonight, and we should have considered ourselves lucky as hell if he only allowed 2 runs.

Tigers win, as they're getting big contributions from some no-name relievers.

The guy was getting liners hit against him all night, labored through 107 pitches....and you bring him back out when you have an off day the next day?

Well done Ozzie, you f***ing idiot.

QUOTE(Reddy @ May 24, 2007 -> 01:54 AM) yep 1 run on 3 hits... i mean it's not as bad as getting shut down by a guy with a 10 ERA but still... we should be able to manage 2 or 3 hits off this guy at the very least... Fixed I can't believe Garland is still out there. Nothing like trying to get your pitcher a win, I guess.

The best chance to score 2 runs is for Erstad to grind his way on base, Iguchi to do what he does best and make an out, and then have Thome bomb a low sinker.

Gaudin's good enough without our hitters swinging at everything from their heads to their feet.

That should be it for Garland, as he's really had to labor with his pitches tonight.

That was a great catch

Quite a pathetic inning. I hope Greg Walker didn't break his hand patting himself on the back. QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 24, 2007 -> 01:37 AM) I love it when our high priced sluggers take pitches for strike 3. You must have missed the memo where he said it's ok if he strikes out a lot.

Dye with two great pitches to hit that AB. QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ May 24, 2007 -> 01:34 AM) Good to see the Fire Walker thread got bumped up. As if this game is not a reminder enough that our offense is not cured because of 3 games. Colby Lewis = cure for every hitting coach. In all honesty, we're going to see 3 really tough pitchers in our next 4 games.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 24, 2007 -> 01:29 AM) You would think with all of the thumpers on our team, that we would take pitches better. I mean if we could see half the pitches that the As see, we would have something. We don't have a team with a lot of patient hitters though. It's amazing how bad Crede is at drawing walks, at this point in his career. Erstad, for all the pitches he sees, doesn't walk often either.

What a bad throw by Erstad. Just par for the outfield, it seems.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ May 24, 2007 -> 01:19 AM) we better hold them to one because it's tough to see us scoring more than two. maybe greg walker shouldn't have done that pre-game interview. What did Walker have to say? Was it as entertaining as Cooper saying how good the bullpen is throwing before yesterday's game? This is the most pitches up in the zone I've seen from Garland in a long time. This has the feel of the last Royals game where we were going for the sweep. Here comes the Yaz talk!