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QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:41 AM) The 86 year old will be paid 10MIL in 2009, according to Kal. Did KW just get extremely lucky in the offseason before 2005, or has he just had bad luck since then?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:40 AM) Signed through 2009. f***

I have a feeling Hawk's defense of Greg Walker is going to get really annoying.

So, does Contreras have 1 yr or 2 yrs left on his deal after this season?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:37 AM) holy christ we don't care anymore Yet no one gets on the manager. This isn't even close to being fun to watch. QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:38 AM) We have way too many #8 hitters in our lineup right now. And a few #7 hitters in the minors.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:36 AM) Horrible trade. We can get more than that. Why are you so obssesed with this guy? Is it because Beane showed interest in him? Why would it be horrible if you're clearing yourself of Jose's contract while adding an actual outfield prospect with a high ceiling. Another fantastic AB....is AJP the most overrated player in the AL Central?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:34 AM) Contreras for Milledge. Boom, done. Lastings star is fading quickly. He's hurt right now. I don't think any New York team will be interested in Contreras.

If things continue to suck, KW should go up to Buehrle and make him a final offer. If he declines it, trade him.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:28 AM) So Ozzie calls for the hit and run on a 2-2 count with two outs resulting in JD swinging at absolute s***. Gotta love the smallbrain, I mean smallball mentality. EDIT: Yahoo is telling me it was 3 balls. Which is it? It was a full count. All you have to do is throw a 3-2 offspeed pitch, and the Sox will strike out.

It will happen soon enough. Danks is the only person who I will lose a second of sleep over if they're traded. The talent level in our organization is frighteningly low right now, despite Hawk and DJ saying how much talent we have.

Dye refuses to walk this year, as he chases so many pitches with 3 balls. I told my brother that if a splitter is thrown on 3-2, he'll miss it by a mile.

Escobar isn't even close to being sharp tonight.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:23 AM) Honestly, I don't care if Sweeney hits .220 this season, I'd love to see the Sox just say 'f*** it' and keep him up here the whole season. Despite the fact that Sweeney has never dominated a level, the Sox have always pushed him. Why not keep him up here for the whole season? He's going to be part of the future outfield eventually, let him get his lumps this year. Hell, make him the #2 hitter. KW forfeited any title chances in 2007 more during last offseason than moving Sweeney into that spot would.

No matter how good or bad the pitcher is, they still just don't give up many runs against the Sox. Someone can put this in their sig if they want, but I guarantee that the 2007 White Sox don't make the playoffs.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:20 AM) Okay, according to my World Series DVD and other associated video I dont remember El Contreras the side armer. So someone needs to either get him an MRI on his back, or they need him to get his arm angle up a tick. Sure you can drop down to give another angle to the batter. But when you dramatically change your arm angle to side arm primary, then something aint too kosher with the old back there. Last year in Texas, 97 on the gun from 3/4s mixing in a few side armers. Side Arm Count is something that was created after his sciatica acted up and he went on the DL. Ha, I was watching the Game 1 DVD as well today. His wind-up was much quicker then also, and he rarely threw his slider.

Yahoo says 1 ER

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:17 AM) BA Besides that obvious (and sad) truth, Cintron = the only thing resembling backup MI we have. More problems caused by KW not upgrading our bench this offseason (besides our back-up 1B, Toby Hall)

Iguchi might be the worst defensive 2nd baseman in baseball.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:14 AM) But he's not a superstar...yet he and Ordonez were paid like one. I know, a lot of starting pitchers are paid $10 million plus, but it's easier to win with a good pitching staff than the Rangers' or D-Rays' offense. The only saving grace out of the Lee/Pods trade was that it freed payroll that we actually spent.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:12 AM) Mack looks so crappy at the plate, fishing for everything. He's very streaky. When he's going well, he's great. When he's slumping, he makes hitting look very difficult. However, we keep playing him every game no matter what. Gotta love our hitting depth in the organization. At this point, I'd rather see Terrero over Mackowiak and for Cintron to leave.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:11 AM) Just walked in...gosh, this looks like every Sox game in recent memory. Actually, this has been much worse. This hasn't been just lack of clutch hitting.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:10 AM) And we'd be in the process of selling off Carlos or paying him $16-17 million per season to be a member of a fourth place team. I just feel like Carlos receives so much criticism when he was one of the better offensive players in the last two decades for the Sox.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:08 AM) Some great forkballs for Jose there. He's meat if he doesn't have that pitch, but when it's there, he's fine. Even when Contreras was going well, I hated that slider pitch of his. His slider makes me nervous just as Garland's changeup does.

Much better command of his forkball that inning.

QUOTE(Capn12 @ May 5, 2007 -> 03:05 AM) Contreras is just a pile of ass right now. I'm sure his performance after the contract has JR YEARNING to go out and spend on big name pitchers! I hope we don't look back at the 2005 offseason in 5 years and think it caused the downfall of the organization.