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QUOTE(That funky motion @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 01:10 AM) This game just has a weird feel to it! Yes it does.....at least we're winning.

Sox need to get back to taking pitches against Wood. They've been swinging extremely early in the count, and Wood is the type of guy that will make mistakes with the more pitches you see.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 01:09 AM) Hasn't been great and he's given up 0 runs through 4. As long as he keeps doing that i dont care how he looks. Yeah, it's amazing how spoiled we've gotten with Contreras lately. Usually, it would be that he looked great, but his results were awful.

Yes sir! Great time for a good forkball....and Blanco at the plate.

Huge, huge batter in this game.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 01:05 AM) Jose looks like dog s*** tonight. If we were playing any other team besides the Royals, they would have 3 or 4 runs by now. Lets hope they don't have 3 after this inning. Contreras isn't mixing his pitches up well at all tonight. KC is just sitting on the low fastball with no movement. He just needs to keep making pitches with RISP.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 01:01 AM) He's not awful, he's inconsistent. He is 8-7 on the season. And there's no shame in getting shut down by Lee and Sabathia. They bombed him the week before, and Elarton had been hit hard by quite a few teams recently.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 01:01 AM) does carl seem to be slumping? Oh ya....and I'm shocked he hasn't had a day off in this series so far. I wouldn't mind Anderson getting a start tomorrow night against a lefty.

PK is swinging the bat as good as any Sox player I've seen in a long time. We just need to keep getting guys on base in front of him. Everett slumping has resulted in fewer chances for PK to do a lot of damage.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 12:55 AM) The Tribe have some pretty good pitching. Scott Elarton is awful, and he shut them down big time last night.

Tigers with another pathetic effort tonight against the Indians. How can that much offensive talent suck so bad?

Lots of runners left on base by both teams so far.

2 pitches, 2 outs to end the inning.

Contreras got clocked as high as 97 mph.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 12:31 AM) Well, we didn't put anything on the board, but if nothing else, that was a 30 pitch first inning for Brown. I love it when our hitters use a little bit of patience. This guy has a real solid sinker, so the more patience our hitters have, the better chance they have at getting a cookie. Rowand had some pitches up in the zone to hammer, but he was late.

Good play by Pablo. Nice to see Contreras escape that inning without his best stuff.

A little surprised that Everett keeps getting put in the lineup. Can't complain about the rest of the lineup though. Wood is a sinker baller, so we need to avoid the double plays tonight.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 04:54 PM) Do you realize that Neal Cotts has given up all of his runs this year on the first pitch? What?

If you bring back PK, you almost have to trade Contreras for money purposes. I'd like to see KW concentrate on signing PK, Garland, and AJP to multi-year deals.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 04:39 PM) and not all those teams know that he is garbage against left handed batters. He was terrific against lefties last season. In the world of relievers, it's common for guys to have statistical anomalies once in a while. Look at Viz this year vs lefties compared to last year. Marte will have a lot of value on the trade block.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) Fathom, I would give you a 5 post under/over... And I'd bet the under Have I not been better under the new rules though?

Trading Marte straight up likely won't get you a big impact player. However, adding Marte in a deal with someone like Contreras can definitely help sweeten the deal. There are a ton of teams that are really hurting for a lefty reliever.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 04:14 PM) By their rules you are a "dark cloud" IMO, it's f***ing stupid to ban anyone for something like that. You can only praise the team and it's sickening. However, they do make the rules and by their rules, you won't be posting again until October. So you're saying it's a good thing I don't post over there?

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) I get very nervous with Viz and Marte in the bullpen. I would love to package one or both of them to get another hitter. Baj would fit in nicely. Of the three pitchers you mention, Vizcaino has the best chance of being on the club next season.

If we trade a starter, it's much more likely to be Contreras than Duque. Contreras will never have more value than he'll have this offseason, and especially with one year left on his deal, I can see him being used to bring us some offense. I have no clue how possible it is, but a package of Contreras/Marte/Sweeney for someone like Hank Blalock would be perfect. Duque has very little trade value now days.