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QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:47 AM) Uh. We only went 4 innings without a run. I totally forgot the PK homer. My bad.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:46 AM) Then everyone in baseball is a bad manager, because there is not a manager in baseball that takes Duque out giving up 1 run through 6 innings with a 9 1/2 game lead on September 6. There just isn't. And if you really believe there is, there is no reason to continue. WHat half the board thinks means absolutely nothing. Actually, most managers would be more cautious with an old, injury prone starting pitcher that he has plans of pitching in the postseason. Not only that, but it's not like our bullpen is tired. We have added arms in the bullpen to help out the rest of the season. Lets just win this game!

If Sweeney comes to the plate this inning, can we just walk him?

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:44 AM) what a ridiculous hit and run call... The idea was fine, just a terrible pitch to put in play. To make 3 outs on the bases though is poor, and that's how you don't score for 6 consecutive innings against bad pitching.

3 outs on the bases.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:38 AM) Jenks has gone the last 4? days? Hermy. Hermanson said his back's really bothering him. He even said that he doesn't feel like he has his best stuff right now. Jenks didn't pitch on Sunday.

Good job Cliffy! Is it Hermanson or Jenks in the 9th?

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:36 AM) Relax, Relax. We got 5 outs to get against KC, and this will be a learning experience( God I hope) for Oz. Agreed. Even though I thought the Seattle game and the Rangers game would be a learning experience for Ozzie.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:33 AM) Pullling a Fathom, but does this have shades of KC tying the game, and us being short men in the pen.... I seriously want to know how I'm the only one who seems extremely pissed right now at this overall managing. We have a few more guys in the pen though.

QUOTE(That funky motion @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:32 AM) I could see this being one of those games! Ozzie Wastes his bullpen,then the game gets tied up into extra innings! We have a few more guys in the bullpen tonight.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) Any team for that matter, s*** I was wondering why he took Viz out hes made a complete turn around from the beginning of the season, how stupid I am. Matt Stairs is more feared by Ozzie than almost any other hitter in baseball. Seriously, he almost always makes a pitching change late in the game if Stairs is coming up. However, this is Marte's fault, not Ozzie's this inning.

Ok, please pull Marte before he lets the Royals tie this game. He didn't come close to throwing a good slider tonight.

Marte has hung every slider he's thrown tonight.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:30 AM) And this is why you don't let bad teams think they have a chance to win the game. You don't have to tell me that. There's no use b****ing about it now...just have to win this f'n game.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:29 AM) Cotts' ERA is at 1.87, that's amazing compared to last year. What a turnaround. And he's a situational lefty now.

Wow, this is getting awful.

jphat....how many threads were there on soxtalk the last few days saying that Duque needs to get turned into a 5 or 6 inning pitcher? This isn't just my typical b****ing.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:23 AM) I was talking to the other guy. I'm not mad at Ozzie or Duque. Duque had a QS. He had given up 1 run in 6 innings. You let him stay out there. I get pissed at free passes. Especially in front of Sweeney. That's why i was much more pissed at Cotts. I don't care what he's done this year. He's been great in his situations. But i'm talkin about tonight. I understand getting pissed at a free pass, but it's not like Cotts threw 4 straight pitches over the batter's head. Rather, he hit Guiel with an inside fastball. It happens...especially for someone who has never had pinpoint control.

All I know is this is 4 straight starts where Duque has allowed a run in his last inning.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:19 AM) we're still in good shape here guys, don't panic It's not the panic, it's the fact that Ozzie continues to make the same mistake with Duque in his starts. When everyone but the manager thinks the pitcher should be pulled, it makes you scratch your head.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:20 AM) WTF. I Was saying make the other team earn it. Don't give them free passes in that situation. I knew what you meant. It's just hard to get mad at Cotts for hitting ONE batter. Hell, at the beginning of this year, I would have been happy if Cotts went 1/3- while allowing 2 runners.

PK = he's good. Nice insurance run.

QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:19 AM) Exactly! But hey, Ozzie goes with his gut. That is more important than the fact that Cotts is our best reliever and Duque could have his arm fall off at any time now. I'm just happy that the Royals made two outs that inning on bunts.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:17 AM) Make people earn it. Don't hit people with a 2 run lead with Sweeney coming up soon. Wow, and I thought I was negative. Even if Cotts would have blown that lead, he's the last person who should be blamed for anything this 2nd half of the year.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:16 AM) ^^^^ One of the best relievers in all of baseball this season, and he's a f***ing LOOGY. Cotts should have started that inning, no doubt about it. Hell, how much conversation has there been about Duque in the press about how he can only go about 6 innings these days without imploding?