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QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:43 AM) It would be one thing if I just talked about last year, but I said both years. Why would we just analyze the year he hasn't done as well, just so you can bash another player and whine, whine whine I know a lot of people probably disagree with me on daily basis on here, but I think I speak for the majority of people on here when I say you're way off base with this. The reason I b**** about Timo? Because he absolutely sucks, and our manager gives him way too much playing time. Like I said earlier, 5 for your last 36 should resulted in a release, not a promotion to leadoff or number 5 hitter.

Impressive bat speed by the Sox hitters. Does anyone notice the intensity the Twins players seem to have tonight? Ozzie has got to get the Sox back to playing with some balls and intensity.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:40 AM) Yah, lets just put this year in a vacuum and forget everything else. It has no bearing on anything. Wow. Fine, then AJP is an asshole, Juan Uribe and A. Rowand have 30 homer potential, and Jon Garland is a bust.

This is f***ing pathetic.

Our guys aren't coming close to catching up with Rincon's fastball.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:38 AM) He had the game wiinning HR earlier in the year against the TWins, though that was a start, he beat the Angels against awesome closer Krod, he tied up the game in a huge game against the A's and awesome closer Huston street. Had a huge 9th inning HR against FLA to win last year, Huge bases clearing double against LAA last year. A bunch of others. Stop talking about last year!

Good professional AB by Everett there.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:37 AM) Fine, Look up his pinch hit numbers .... He sucks there too... Don't let a couple "game winning hits" distort your view.... f*** I'd ratcher have Kelly Dransfeldt in the line up. Dransfeldt had some clutch hits also.

Uribe seems to have his swagger back. Keep him in the 2 spot for now.

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:34 AM) True, Wasn't sure if ANderson plays RF or LF or both. I honestly think I heard Ozzie said he'd play Anderson in CF, and Rowand in LF. I might be wrong, but that's what I thought I heard before the game.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:34 AM) It'll never happen. Iguchi really isn't a leadoff hitter at all. I think if Iguchi plays, you'll see Ozuna in the lineup to bat leadoff for him unless Timo's in the lineup. Ozzie said today that Iguchi would leadoff.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:32 AM) Haven't had one of our patented 8th, 9th inning comebacks in awhile. Now would be an ideal spot with several tough relievers due up these next two innigns. We've been facing better bullpens lately than what we were facing when we had those great comebacks. Where's Andy Sisco when we need him?

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:32 AM) Ozzie's manager of the year. Only tonight, it's on the planet Nimrod. He's been on vacation to planet Nimrod for about 3 weeks.

QUOTE(WhiteSox311 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:32 AM) how did griffey clear waivers when our offense blows this much dong. Do you know how waivers works? If not, look into it, and you'll get your answer.

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:30 AM) My line up tomorrow. Iguchi 2B Uribe SS Everett LF Konerko 1B Dye DH Rowand CF AJ C Anderson RF Crede 3B Mix and match Anderson, Dye, and Everett for OF or DH. Everett has got to DH. He's still not 100 percent. AJP will be higher up in the order. I love your idea though. Uribe is the type of guy who will likely be better higher up in the order, where he has to concentrate more with moving runners over, etc.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:29 AM) Politte needs to pick it up, his splits so far this month aren't good at all. We need some momentum heading into the bottom of this inning. Your wish is granted.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:28 AM) Very rarely do PH numbers impress anybody. Many have said that it is incredibly difficult to pinch hit. Timo has a bunch of big hits, a couple game-winning. This is one situation where Hawk's "don't tell me what you hit, tell me when you hit it applies." Considering how Ozzie likes to rest his starters seemingly every other day, you need a back-up outfielder who can be inserted into the starting lineup and produce. Timo gives you absolutely no offensive contribution.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:26 AM) So I just want to check with you real quick. You are endorsing that we play BA correct? Absolutely. You can't keep playing a below average player who's slumping. I said it yesterday when the game was called: the worst thing about the game was that Timo just earned himself a handful of starts with his two bloopers. Most bench players that go 5 for 36 get released, not promoted to the leadoff or number 5 spot.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:25 AM) He'll definately be back. Hopefully it won't be for a significant time as a starter. He's been solid enough as a pinch hitter though. He's no Lenny Harris, but he has some big hits. He's been terrible as a pitch hitter this season. His numbers suck in the situations that Hawk and Ozzie think he's amazing at.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:25 AM) Timo is to Ozzie as Hollensworth is to Dusty I'd take Hollandsworth over Timo in a heartbeat! At least he's fast enough to be a worthy base runner late in the game.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:24 AM) screw that... Lets give him raise That's funny, usually it's Timo giving Ozzie a raise.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:23 AM) Since this game is over, they better get their s*** straight for tomorrow. Ozzie better f***ing do something "this this this f***!" This spoiled my night... I can't wait until around 5pm tomorrow when we see Timo is playing again.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:23 AM) I don't think there is anyone defending Timo starting. At least not that I've seen. There's plenty of people who try to rationalize Timo's extensive playing time on this board.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:23 AM) And the sad thing is right now if I looked at it, Ozzie and KW would probably bring back Timo next year for around the same price. Not a doubt in my mind we'll bring him back next season.

It just baffles me how anyone could defend Timo. He's a terrible, terrible player! 5 for his last 36 now....just the spark you want from a bench player.