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QUOTE(knightni @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 12:26 AM) Johnny Gomes would look good in LF for the Sox. Have Pods be DH. If you think Pods is bad on defense....Gomes is much worse. He's a DH all the way.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 12:20 AM) The pessimists are unusually quiet so far... Well, if we were complaining about the Sox going out to a 2-0 early lead, it would show that we're not really Sox fans. You want a complaint, fine: Dye and Rowand continue to suck, and Timo is a disgraceful leadoff man. Is that better?

QUOTE(ottawa_sox @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 12:13 AM) One White Sox hitter and 2 derogatory comments. All he did was hit the ball hard. Timo tries to be way too cute at the plate. His skills don't match his mindset.

Wohoo!!! Now, lets keep it going!

3-2 Indians trailing.

What an idiot.

QUOTE(winodj @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 10:35 PM) Personally, I don't think doping is that bad in sports. How is this any worse than a batter getting Lasik surgery that he doesn't really need to get better vision at a baseball? Lasik surgery = legal Many of these drugs/steroids players are taking = illegal For everyone that think steroids isn't bad, wait til these players are between the ages of 40 and 45, and start dropping dead from heart attacks. If you follow wrestling, you know that an amazing amount of wrestlers die way too early, and steroids can't be helping their bodies.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:41 PM) Thank you fathom. Just for the record, it doesn't mean I'll stop criticizing Ozzie's use of Timo. However, I'm stopping the sexual references I've been making about their relationship.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:44 PM) Scootie P Iguchi A.J. Jenks Hermanson Pablo Ozuna Jermaine Dye All of those moves have been very very good. I agree, I was just saying that at the time, I thought they were great moves by KW. I couldn't imagine dealing with the Ben Davis/J. Burke tandem this season.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:38 PM) Maybe Jenks wasn't drafted by the Sox, but he was salvaged off the scrap heap. That's a good, no .... Great! GM move. I've said all year it's the best move KW made all season. That, and the AJP move, were the two best, in my opinion.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:17 PM) I'm gonna drop my 2 cents in here. This Timo blowing Ozzie s*** is something I'd expect out of some 13 year old kids. It's offensive. It's insulting to the intelligence of Soxtalk posters and it's been going on for entirely too long. Why the hell don't some of you people grow up or, at the very least, challenge yourself to see if you can possibly come up with something new and halfway intelligent. And, for the record, I am not the only one who feels this way about pre-teen caliber s*** you are slinging around here. For the record, I won't say anything regarding Ozzie/Timo like that from now on. I didn't know that it was frowned upon on here, as I figured most knew it was a joke. Thanks for letting us know it's not appreciated on here.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:16 PM) OK, but it took them a while to regroup and turn it back around, and besides CC Sabathia is anyone on that pitching staff home grown talent? Victor Martinez Jonny Peralta Travis Hafner Coco Crisp Grady Sizemore Casey Blake CC Sabathia That is all right? WHITE SOX home grown talent Mark Buehrle Jon Garland Neal Cotts Bobby Jenks Joe Crede Aaron Rowand Jenks, Blake, Garland, Sizemore aren't considered home grown talent. Usually, home grown talent means players you've brought into the system, and developed throughout. Jenks is such a different pitcher than the type we usually see with the Sox...he must have been brought in!

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 04:05 PM) Besides Oakland, Minnesota, and Atlanta, what other organizations would you be talking about? I don't see many organizations at all developing young talent on a consistent basis. Cleveland....they're going to be monsters for the next 5 years or so.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) Who would replace KW as the GM? Steve Stone

QUOTE(mreye @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 03:31 PM) I was on vacation since last Wednesday, so I didn't have to experience much of this, thank God. But, the worst thing about last night was the dugout in the ninth with one on and Rowand at the plate. Not a sole standing. Everyone was sitting and looking dead. Sad. Really sad. That's shot says it all about this team right now. Has it been that way for the past week? It's been much, much worse. Last night was a spirited effort compared to most of the games in the last week.

Buerhle's going to have to keep Lecroy down. Of course, if the Sox don't score, it's not going to really matter. Lets get some f***ing runs tonight boys!

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:33 PM) AJ needs a rest every 4th game and that's fine. Also isnt stealing a base imperitive in small ball. When was the last time we actually stole a base??? Unlike many Sox pitchers, other teams actually hold base runners on. We have some terrible base runners, like Ozuna and Uribe. We're better off doing hit-and-runs than straight steals. Of course, you can't steal if you get on base.

We control our own destiny. If we lose a majority of the rest of our games this season, we won't make the playoffs. I wouldn't want it any other way. If we play good baseball and win like 60 pct of the rest of our games, we'll make it.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:12 PM) It's time to give Brian Anderson a look now. I think that both the notions that Dye "carried us" and given us a pass are both incorrect really. He was called Jermaine Dead for a long time and he got better but it wasn't like he played THAT great. The issues with this offense are plentiful, to the point that finding a scapegoat like Dye doesn't accomplish much. Dye's OPS from May to July was outstanding. Of course, that was when he wasn't trying to pull every pitch. I wouldn't be against giving another hitter a chance in this lineup, but Anderson's swing is too long to contribute at this level now.

IF, and that's a big if, the Sox don't make the playoffs, which of these slogans would best describe this 2005 season? - White Sox baseball: Win.....or do nothing. - White Sox offense: More doughnuts than Krispy Kreme. - White Sox offense: Couldn't score with a drunk Tara Reid. - White Sox pitching: Less room for error than Paris Hilton's birth control. - 2005....The Year of the Timo for four. - Where would he play? Any other? And please, no lectures on this being a pessimistic post. Just cause we post in here, it doesn't mean we're giving up on the season.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) Sooooo many offensive problems, sooooo little time. Soooo little in-house options.

QUOTE(winodj @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) Do I think he juiced? Yes. Do I think it matters? Absolutely not. Juice isn't gonna make you do what he did. The type of enhancers he's being accused of would certainly give a rider an unfair advantage.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 12:48 PM) Rowand is in the exact same squatty stance as last year. Pitchers have made an adjustment on him, he needs to adjust in return. I wonder why so many on this board aren't employed in baseball, I'm not either. Rowand's swing is longer than it was last season....among other things. The two main reasons our offense has underperformed this season is that Rowand and Uribe haven't maintained anything close to their offensive numbers from last year.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 01:31 PM) who is hitting the ball??? crede...no, uribe....no, rowand....no, whoever is in left? nope..........the only people not in a slump are konerko and iguchi. cant blame it simply on dye. Iguchi's in a big slump also right now, and his execution at the plate has rivaled Crede for being the worst on the team over the last few weeks.

QUOTE(wallyburger @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 12:34 PM) I am talking about cheap all year, not just Griffey. Jerry took Maggs, Lee and Valentin money and flipped some of it over to the pitching staff and pocketed the rest. Bevery Hills staff and a bargain basement offense. I really think Jerry's problem is he is a risk free guy. He just won't hedge his bet. His budget was his only consideration and Kenny thought the pitching would carry the club. No offense, but you're clueless.