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Rowand needs to throw better in order to win a Gold Glove. If you look at guys like Hunter and Edmonds in CF, they have incredibly accurate arms in the outfield. Rowand's arm has been disappointing this season.

I'm just happy he's not in the AL Central or on the Cubs.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:36 AM) I really hope they go out and play with some heart tomorrow, that will shut all of us up. What's defined as heart though? I would bet everyone said we played with heart in the Yankees series. The problem is, while a lot of people were saying that series should erase all doubts for people, it continued to raise doubts about our offense. Sure, I'll take any win that we can get now.

QUOTE(whitesoxjr27 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:35 AM) Kyle Lohse hung around long enough to earn his first victory since July 2. :headshake Hung is the proper word, because his offspeed pitch was terrible tonight.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:33 AM) Please don't compare Felix hernandez to Brandon McCarthy. That's not fair to either player. Oh trust me, I know. It was a pre-emptive statement before anyone said that it was only against the Royals.

QUOTE(ottawa_sox @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:32 AM) Exactly. Ozzie does not get enough credit. And I say this while occasionaly scratching my own head at his moves. His on field managerial skills are only part of his job description. I think Oz brings an attitude and carries himself in an invaluable manner. Somehow he has this team 12 games up. I will wait until the end of the season (regular season) before I make any judgments about Ozzie's ability to manage off the field. I bet the Nationals thought Frank Robinson was the greatest manager ever at the end of June.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:30 AM) Don't be so sure of yourself, our offense has been even worse now that hes not on base. Not trying to take any credit away from the pitching but you can't take any away from Pods either. I'm not saying Pods isn't a valuable player. However, the reason that every run he scored was highlighted was because our pitching was incredible.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:30 AM) Oh. sorry. DIdn't realize managers got dumber when the calendar turned. Do they have a chip in their head? No, because maybe it's when the players are tired and the games mean more, our managers have been bent over by guys like Gardenhire. It's easy to manage a team when everyone is fresh at the start of the season, etc. The great managers find a way to get their team up for every game at the end of the season.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:27 AM) If thats true we must have an unbelievalbe amount of talent to have the best record in baseball to win in spite of our manager. While you were busy fellating Timo, we were discussing our managers in August the last few years.

QUOTE(ottawa_sox @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:26 AM) We need a healthy Pods getting on....stealing........being advanced by Gooch.....being plated by the big boys. End of 1st, we are leading and excited. This is the way it was drawn up and when Pods comes back (healthy), we should see more of the same. Pressure offense ...... make the other guys play scared. Pods impact on this team was overrated the first half of the season. It was our pitching that carried us. Pods doesn't have a very high run scored total this season.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:22 AM) This is what happens to this team over the last few years when we tick past August 1st. Corpseball The team starts kicking the ball around alot. Everyone starts trying to park every single pitch into the stands. Lots and Lots of warning track shots, or high high pop ups. You will never see so many pop ups. When men get on in scoring position with less than 2 outs. They will K swinging for the fences or GIDP or pop up to the catcher or 1st baseman. Pitches will give up big innings. Guys will admire what they think is a homer and then after realizing it was in the park, they run like madmen to get to second because they realized they f***ed up. Carlos Lee did this like 3 times last August, and Pauly does it for the first time tonight. Don't forget our managers get severely out-managed by the opposition.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:20 AM) I 2nd that. Prepare for the flamers to come out. I don't give a s***. I've been saying that this slump was bound to happen once we started to play good teams during this stretch, and people called me an asshole because of it. Our offense has been struggling so much at home, and when you play teams with good bullpens, the game can get late fast.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:15 AM) I see "I love this f***ing team" being posted so damn much and I don't see why. They do need to get their s*** straight. I'm a diehard Sox fan, but I'm also a baseball "expert". I'll say this (and I'm sure I'll be bashed): I have absolutely no clue how the Sox are 12 games up on the Indians, and 15 on the Twins. It's one of the most pleasant surprises I've ever had in sports, because this is not a great Sox team we're talking about.

Yeah, he's good. Thru 5 innings, 1 hit and 9 K. I know, I know...it's against KC. Remember how great our pitching phenom did against the Royals?

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:11 AM) But thats exactly my point. As I have stated numerous times he is useless as a leadoff hitter and regular player, but he is just fine as a first player off the bench. He should be the last player on the bench, and only used (if your dumb enough to have him on your team) in late inning situations when you need an RBI, and not someone to reach base. The problem is that our dumbass manager thinks he's capable of playing every day. You'd never see Lenny Harris start more than one game every 2 or 3 weeks.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:11 AM) Great to listen to Ozzie's excuses in the locker room right now. Saying how Pods and Iguchi weren't in the lineup.....reporter said 'what does those 2 not being in the lineup have to do with your team playing lethargic today?" And why wasn't Iguchi in the lineup? I'll say this: If the Sox don't make the playoffs, I'll ban myself from this site. My season-ending rant on Ozzie would not be pretty.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:07 AM) I'd much rather him go 0-3 with nobody on in his first 3 ABs, and then come on and get a base hit with men on 2nd and 3rd in the 8th inning. ANd if you disagree about that, then I don't even see why we are arguing about it. So basically, he's only useful if other players get on in front of him? Thank god that we have him batting leadoff then

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:05 AM) This team has looked completely flat since the trade deadline....IMO. I guess Blum didn't give us that shot in the arm we were looking for. My brother, who's the complete opposite in terms of me regarding optimism/pessimism, goes to me after the deadline passed "we're screwed. It's been obvious this team was going to need offensive help, and we did nothing. We had a chance to do something to support these players that had done so well to give us a big lead. Instead of giving them a push, we decided to put more pressure on them to play at a high level". Sounds pretty legit to me after 3 weeks of pop ups and gaffes.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:02 AM) Does everyone feel this energy?? Thats what happens when you play a team you should come in going 100% at only to be given a piss poor lineup and effort... Starts at the top. If everyone's going to credit Ozzie for our spirited play, he needs to take the blame when we're flatter than Lara Flynn Boyle. We should be playing loose and energized, since the Twins are the ones with their season on the line.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:02 AM) I would've just said f it and taken the waiver on him because that may have been the only way we got him. Now that won't happen, we have injuries and some psoters think everything is just fine and dandy. It's not just the injuries that scare me. I don't think our talent level on offense is good enough to win the World Series. The scary thing now is that Everett and PK are on fire. Just imagine what it will be like when the middle of the order is struggling.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:01 AM) I hope we don't sellout for the playoffs. We'd have no chance. Considering we're going to have large crowds for the rest of the season, if we continue to suck in front of big home crowds, we won't have to worry about the playoffs.

I said this last night, and I'll repeat it again: KW needs to get an answer from the Reds about whether or not they'll ever trade Griffey Jr. during the season, no matter who's involved in the trade. If they say no, then he needs to move on to someone different. This team is not good enough to consistently win at home.

Spirited effort tonight boys!

Man, we just flat out suck at home now. We never get opposite field hits at the Cell. But, we have the best record in baseball, so I guess there's nothing to worry about.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 02:56 AM) Hawk can be wrong though. Remember in 2003 after the Sox made the Robby Alomar and Everett trades? Hawk claimed that there was going to be a deal made that was even bigger than those combined. Was that supposed to be Schoenweis? I doubt it. Scott Sullivan, you mean?