We know how Kenny is and there is a good chance he's just blowing smoke here, but these comments still seem noteworthy...

 

"If I had to guess right now, we will go to Spring Training with all six and figure it out from there," Williams said. "As I've told you guys before, I'll always explore avenues and opportunities for this team to try to get better."

 

Vazquez officially headed to South Side

 

Some other good quotes from Vazquez as well.

We know how Kenny is and there is a good chance he's just blowing smoke here, but these comments still seem noteworthy...

Vazquez officially headed to South Side

 

Some other good quotes from Vazquez as well.

 

Told some of you that.

Told some of you that.

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LOL, you don't actually believe him do you? It's just smoke-blowing. KW isn't going to come out and say Garland is on the trading block because that would hurt his leverage.

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LOL, you don't actually believe him do you?  It's just smoke-blowing.  KW isn't going to come out and say Garland is on the trading block because that would hurt his leverage.

 

And what will you say when he does keep them?

And what will you say when he does keep them?

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I won't have to worry about it. Garland will be gone.

I won't have to worry about it.  Garland will be gone.

 

Care to make an avy bet?

I'm actually in the boat that thinks Garland stays, but will be dealt by the trade deadline. But who the hell really knows.

I'm actually in the boat that thinks Garland stays, but will be dealt by the trade deadline.  But who the hell really knows.

 

That's what I think if he's dealt at all.

Care to make an avy bet?

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Sure, I will put "nitetrain8601 is my god" in my sig if Garland is kept. You do the same for me if Garland is traded.

Sure, I will put "nitetrain8601 is my god" in my sig if Garland is kept.  You do the same for me if Garland is traded. 

 

Deal.

Technically, the bet could be interpreted as the loser having to put "nitetrain8601 is my god" in his sig, even if the loser is nitetrain.

 

Sorry, it's the contentious litigator in me.... :

"I am [insert name]'s b****" is a much better bet.

How about the part of the article that says the White Sox are currently over budget?

"I am [insert name]'s b****" is a much better bet.

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How about the part of the article that says the White Sox are currently over budget?

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That's why I know I will win.

when does this deal expire? The end of July? August?

Garland stays as does the other 5 and we use a 6 man rotation that includes McCarthy. Garland will sign an extension with the Sox. I have the inside scoop/

Garland stays as does the other 5 and we use a 6 man rotation that includes McCarthy. Garland will sign an extension with the Sox. I have the inside scoop/

I don't believe this for a second. It would take 4/40 to even get Garland to think about signing right now.

Garland stays as does the other 5 and we use a 6 man rotation that includes McCarthy. Garland will sign an extension with the Sox. I have the inside scoop/

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Is the "inside scoop" basically your own opinion?

either that or the brain in his right thumb.... which is accordingly up his ass.

I don't believe this for a second. It would take 4/40 to even get Garland to think about signing right now.

 

 

 

Garland is probably thinking he can get 20 wins this year.

 

Looking for a 5 year 65 million dollar deal as a free agent.

How about the part of the article that says the White Sox are currently over budget?

What are we currently at, for the moment? I know it's probably going to end up somewhere b/w the $85-90M mark.

What are we currently at, for the moment? I know it's probably going to end up somewhere b/w the $85-90M mark.

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I think our payroll is around the mid $90 millions right now which is why Garland is expected to be traded so our payroll will be brought back down to the high $80 millions.

All this tells us is that Kenny has not gotten any bites that were good offers. He will hold out for more. People go down in spring training or early season. His cards maybe better at that time. I am sure he wants to unload garland but he has not gotten what he thinks is good trade material in return. The problem with this is we will need relievers in hte meantime. He maybe over budget and hopefully he will be allowed to start over budget. We will see.

All this tells us is that Kenny has not gotten any bites that were good offers. He will hold out for more. People go down in spring training or early season. His cards maybe better at that time. I am sure he wants to unload garland but he has not gotten what he thinks is good trade material in return. The problem with this is we will need relievers in hte meantime. He maybe over budget and hopefully he will be allowed to start over budget. We will see.

This is basically it. Kenny wants to get rid of Jon but once again for leverage you can't publically say you are trying to unload a guy. I believe KW will wait and see until he gets an offer that blows his socks off .

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All this tells us is that Kenny has not gotten any bites that were good offers. He will hold out for more. People go down in spring training or early season. His cards maybe better at that time. I am sure he wants to unload garland but he has not gotten what he thinks is good trade material in return. The problem with this is we will need relievers in hte meantime. He maybe over budget and hopefully he will be allowed to start over budget. We will see.

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The key date is the arbitration hearing. Obviously, either they work out a deal or he goes to arbitration. My guess is he's moved before a hearing.

 

There are still pitchers out there (Boras clients) so all the pieces haven't fallen into place. White Sox are in a good position with this, there is no rush.

 

Also there are tons of non tender bullpen and 4th OF candidates, they will definitely bring in a few guys.