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QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 10:02 PM) besides, we're not scoring 5 runs today anway. Well, might as well let Widger pitch the last 3 innings of this game.

QUOTE(SHAFTR @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:58 PM) He has only given up 1 run in the last 5 innings. I'm pretty confident I wasn't the only one on here who thought Contreras didn't have much on the mound today.

Well, good job by Contreras at least by holding the Cubs to 5 runs on a day when he had nothing on the mound. We weren't going to win this game anyways if we only scored 2 runs.

QUOTE(Brian @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:54 PM) You obviously don't realize how slow Maddux is to the plate. Thanks. You obviously weren't listening when Hawk said how the Cubs were making a legit effort at holding Pods at 2nd base today. If Barrett was the catcher, I would like the chances of a successful SB a lot more by Pods.

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) it's his last inning. better to use contreras for the sixth at this point than start using the bullpen. I completely disagree. You pull Contreras before this game gets out of hand. We can still win this game if we're 3 down at this point. However, if the Cubs get a few more runs cause Ozzie left Contreras and his WHIP of about 25 today on the mound too long, then that's bad managing.

PULL CONTRERAS! I know Ozzie loves to leave his pitchers in for at least 6 innings no matter what, but it's painfully obvious that Contreras has nothing today.

QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:49 PM) well, the sox can't win every game. otherwise, what would we complain about?

QUOTE(Brian @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:49 PM) Pods could of swiped 3rd off Maddux twice now and didn't. Hate to be hard on the guy, but we could easily have two more runs. With Blanco catching, I don't think Pods would have greater than a 50/50 chance of stealing 3rd against Maddux.

Man, Maddux is making so many awful pitches today, we're just not scoring runs off of them.

OK, I've tried to be patient, but enough of Moose. I don't give a s*** how many homers he had in the World Series, etc. Hawk has to love it though so he doesn't have to announce when the Sox are losing.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:41 PM) Get Contreras the hell out of there. But Jim, how can he get the win then?

Dye's been our best player over the last month, and his defense has gotten a little better also. We need to play him every game as long as he's on fire, which means no TIMO!

Was that the first person that Dye has thrown out at home all year? Can we please take Contreras out of the game? He basically has handed about 3 runs to the Cubs this game.

QUOTE(Tadahito15 @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:38 PM) I am mildy concerned as well. It would be nice for Kenny to make a move and pick up a guy like Lilly or someone with the skills to be a 4 or 5 SP type guy to fill in for Contreras or El Duque if they really struggle or go down to injury. I don't have a clue why we'd be interested in Lilly. With the weather getting warmer, he'd likely lead the majors in homers allowed if he pitched at the Cell all year. Also, he's someone that doesn't go a lot of innings.

QUOTE(SAVVY18 @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:33 PM) These guys HAVE to be patient, like they usually are. Relax and get him out of the game first and foremost. We're usually patient? Have I been watching a different team all year?

QUOTE(Tadahito15 @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:33 PM) IF we do somehow happen to lose this one, the worst we can do is tie the overall series 3-3 this year. And with the one stat that DOES matter, our games up on the Twins, it will be at 9.5 at worst. Things arent that bad. Still lots of game left, the Cubs pen, and the chance for a series win tomorrow if not today!!! GO SOX I absolutely agree. The whole overview of where the Sox are right now is a scenario that I would have never dreamed possible before the start of the season. Thus, the reason for more optimism on my behalf about the rest of the season, and not just a focus on each individual game, etc. Teams lose games during the season, it happens. I'm beginning to get concerned about Contreras though.

Don't like to say I told you so, but there was the limited pitch inning you could sense was coming. I have a feeling Contreras will start this inning.

2 strikes.....SWING THE f***ING BAT!

Here comes that 8 pitch inning by Maddux. My fear that the Hollandsworth catch changed the whole momentum of this game looks like it could be coming true. Luckily, there's a long way to go.

QUOTE(SAVVY18 @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:28 PM) So who do you guys want to come in to pitch then? ANYONE. Vizcaino or Cotts will likely start the 5th inning.

I'll be pissed if Contreras goes back in for the 5th inning.

Stupid, stupid, stupid decision by PK.

Get this piece of s*** off of the mound. This is an atrocious performance.

Moose S. seems like a nice, enjoyable guy, but am I the only one who would rather not have to listen to him during a Cubs/Sox game? If you want to bring an added dimension to the game, have him in the booth for a KC or Tampa game, etc. I'll never forget Moose getting excited when DuBois hit that 3 run homer off of Viz, only for Moose to think it was an easy out.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 09:19 PM) He's got a minimum of two innings left in him then. He'll have an 8 pitch inning along the way. This is the way almost all of his starts are now.