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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 10:15 AM) What a horribly written article. First, it's pretty hard to read because of how poorly it's written, second, this idiot still calls Jerry Owens a young prospect. UGH. Wait. Are you saying that a CF who's older than Justin Morneau, Nate McLouth (8 months), Rocco Baldelli (7 months), Carl Crawford (6 months), Curtis Granderson, Bobby Jenks and Jake Peavy should no longer be considered a young prospect or even a prospect altogether? That's just crazy talk.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 11:31 AM) The market for Thome who can only DH and makes $15 million is slim to none and he has a no trade. He's a White Sox. Dye can go. I think the Sox wouldn't mind trading Paulie, but finding a team that really will take him, and he will agree to go to will be tough. If the D-Backs can't afford Randy Johnson at $5 million a year, they aren't trading for Paulie. That would leave the Angels IMO. I think he stays. Thome's due $13M and there may still be some of that Philly money lying around.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 12:43 PM) if we have cabrera at SS...there are worse things really...at least its only for a year...we'd like to have the draft picks sure, but who is to say a top 15 team in the draft wouldn't sign him, and wed just get a sandwich pick....besides it might keep alexei out of SS and perhaps even into CF....i know he costs a ton more, but im fairly certain he would give us way more than anything lillibridge would give us If a top 15 team signed Orlando we'd get a sandwich pick and that team's early 2nd round pick, that's still a nice haul. Sure he'll give you more than Lillibridge, at 25 to 30 times the price. It's going to cost the Sox $10M to $12M to keep him around. That seems like an awful lot for an underwhelming middle infielder.

Daniel Cabrera will be a member of the White Sox organization before Christmas.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 09:59 AM) Peavy, 27, will make $8 million in 2009, $15 million in 2010, $16 million in 2011 and $17 million in 2012, and he has a 2013 option for $22 million, with a $4 million buyout. Peavy's 2007 Cy Young award raises his 2009 salary to $11M. From '09 through '12 Peavy is guaranteed $15.75M per season, this is the 4th highest annual average value for a pitcher on a multi-year deal in the history of the game. Include his $4M buyout and that's $16.75M. Given the amount of talent and money it would take to acquire and keep him, I think it would be borderline irresponsible of the White Sox to acquire him. If that elbow becomes an issue or he never adjusts to the new league/park it could cripple the organization.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 04:34 PM) If Uribe doesn't accept arbitration last year who plays third? That's no what happened with Uribe. The team held a $5M team option on Juan for the '08 season, the option was declined and Uribe was re-signed at a lesser price ($4.5M).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 02:05 PM) You do not lose your #1 pick if it is within the top 15. If you're sitting at #16 and you sign a type A FA, you lose your pick. Basically, go Diamondbacks, you know you want Cabrera. That Drew guy you have at SS isn't worth anything. One question...the Mariners have an extra pick at #22 next year because they didn't sign their #1 guy last year. Anyone know what happens if they sign a type A guy? That 22nd pick is their's no matter what, you can't lose that kind of draft pick as compensation for signing a type A free agent.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 12:44 AM) That sucks. I've only seen video on the guy. I guess I'd just put faith in the Sox staff. He'd have to take a full physical to come here so I'm sure if there was anything all that major it would pop up - I can't imagine the Sox letting this go through without getting a look at everything they possibly can. Then again, I still wonder how in the world we were able to send Freddy to the Phils after '06 with a physical. I'd have my worries too, but he's one of those guys that if he can keep his FB in the mid-90's and find that curveball again, he could help us a whole lot for the next 6-7 years. Freddy Garcia never took a physical.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 12:01 AM) Javy and Boone truly suck, but as far as what we got in return. Let's see. I can't imagine we acquired very good prospects. Traditionally the Braves have been a smart organization. Javy is trash and so is Boone. Well in the past 2 years they've given away Max Ramirez and Willy Aybar for Bob Wickman and Jeff Ridgway.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 11:45 PM) Roberts and Daniel Cabrera are attainable much more easily. I think Roberts is a great one year fit until Beckham is ready. The rest of the options are meh..... How about Roberts and Furcal with Ramirez in CF or at 3B with Anderson in CF. I'd say there's about a 60% chance Daniel Cabrera is non-tendered next Friday. I think they've reached the point with Cabrera that they'd rather just let him walk than pay him the ~$3.2M it would take to retain him in his final year of arbitration.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 10:49 PM) I think he signs for 2 years 18 mil with an option. Well if he somehow goes for 2 year's, $9M per then I hope it's with the Sox.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 10:36 PM) Well, no dout Abreu's a better defender....and moving Dye and having Quentin and Abreu on the corners would make more sense from a defensive standpoint. I just don't think Abreu's numbers over the last couple of seasons and his age justify a big investment, and I do think he will get at least a 3 year commitment from some team out there, not sure which, but it will probably happen. Abreu has gone from being one of the better corner defenders in the game to one of the worst the last few years, he's awful.

Bobby Abreu is no where near a $16M-$18M player. He's looking at 3 years, $13M and that's probably tops. Problem is he's a joke in the field and isn't exactly what you're looking for in a DH (probably a ~.800 OPS and no speed once 2010 rolls around) especially at 36 years old.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 08:08 PM) I was kidding. But thanks. Hilarious.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 08:04 PM) Is this the 1st KW deal that was reported and went through? It's actually like number 5 or 6 in the last 3 or 4 years.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:15 PM) Anyone have a Braves message board to see what they are hearing and their thoughts? http://www.talkingchop.com/2008/12/2/67800...cquire-javier-v

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:10 PM) Any confirmation on the prospects? I was out for the last hour. The deal is supposed to be finalized tomorrow so we won't know for sure until then.

QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:08 PM) Why would we trade Dye and then sign Dunn? Unless we were doing it for the spects, that's pretty much a similar player. Dunn is 6 years younger than Jermaine, Dye is only signed for 1 more year and the Sox are going to need a DH in 2010. Makes sense to me.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:06 PM) Dunn's not a bad athlete, but he is a horrible OF. I think KW will stay away from him because he is the all or nothing type. Unless he can unload one or two of his current all or nothing types. A year of Dunn in LF followed by 3 or 4 at DH would be ideal, this is assuming of course that Dye is traded.

Flowers in the AFL: 75 AB, 12 HR, .387/.460/.973/1.433 He led the AFL in HR, hitting 33% more than the next guy. Oh and he led the AFL in OPS by 210 points.

I want Mike Gonzalez. That's all I know. Thread title updated.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 02:52 PM) The one thing that could drive our pick down is if the team signing Cabrera also signed another type A free agent who was more valuable than Cabrera. Then the other team that lost its player would get the top pick from the signing team, and we'd wind up lower down. For example, if the Nationals decided to sign both Teixeira and OC, we'd probably wind up with their 3rd round pick. The number of type A guys not being offered arbitration decreases the chances of that happening by a lot though. I believe it goes in order of signing, not value. If the Nationals sign Cabrera on Dec. 15th and Tex on Dec. 30th the Sox would get Washington's 2nd round pick and the Angels would get their 3rd.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 06:34 PM) Not to crap on this joyous occasion, but I'm about to. I thought this was real news when I opened Soxtalk. Damn it. If someone posted a thread entitled "CONGRATULATIONS" and it contained any real news, the title would be changed within 10 minutes of it being posted. When Cabrera is officially offered arbitration sometime in the next 5 hours the title of the thread will say so.

When an American ballplayer is traded to a Japanese team it's because that player wants to play in Japan and has asked his major league team for a release/trade to a Japanese team. If he's under contract in America he can't just jump on a plane and start playing for the Ham Fighters, he first needs to be let out of that contract either through release or trade.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 28, 2008 -> 10:44 PM) Why would the Sox offer him arbitration? He makes way too much money. He'd be more expensive than Dye in all probability. And if there really is no serious negotiation taking place, why would he agree to turn down the arbitration making himself a little less desirable to other teams because they would have to surrender a draft choice? I wouldn't be shocked if the Sox traded Dye, that Griffey would return, very cheaply. But arbitration, no way. Griffey is a Type B free agent and teams don't have to surrender draft picks when they sign type B's. I do agree with you, there's a less than 0% chance the Sox offer Griffey arbitration unless they know for a fact that he'd decline for whatever reason. He's probably worth about half of the $12M he'd make in arbitration, not worth the risk for some pick in the 40's.