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QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:05 PM) You do know that almost every player is just looking for the big bucks when they hit free agency, right? It's usually their one big chance to cash in while they are in their prime. Konerko's value will never be as high as it is right now. This is his one major payday for his career, he needs to take advantage of this moment.
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QUOTE(Irishsox1 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) The Red Sox were on the cover of Sports Illustrated November 1st for during the World Series and November 8th for winning the World Series...back to back weeks. The 2003 & 1997 Marlins were on 1 cover and that was for both winning the World Series. The 2001 Diamondbacks were on back to back covers, but that series went to 7 games and featured a massive blown save by Mariano Rivera. The 2002 Angels only got 1 cover and that was for winning it all. So, if it's Boston or New York...2 covers. Anyone else, 1 cover. One more time nice a loud . . . "Who Cares?"
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QUOTE(BMac41 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:02 PM) We better have some as good as him to replace him if he doesn't comeback. There aren't a lot of 40/100 guys laying around. We could in all likely hood replace some of his production but not all.
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QUOTE(BMac41 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) How do you know?Are you Paul Konerko........NO He'd be a fool not to.
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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) I think the Cubs are going to wind up with Furcal. Guy who spent years lying about his age, who's overpriced, and who has had a couple of DUI's in the past? Sounds like their kind of guy. See, there's the kind of trouble AJ causes...then there's the other kind of trouble... Furcal does seem to like the night life. His day/night splits from the past 2 years are absolutely pathetic, if Furcal has to play 60 or so home day games next year he could end up having a pretty down season.
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QUOTE(BMac41 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:56 AM) PK wants to stay here.He never said he doesn't want to be here. Just because he never said that he didn't want to be here doesn't mean that he wants to stay in Chicago, if someone offers more years + a bit more cash he'll sign with them. It's as simple as that.
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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:50 AM) That's not the big question. The big question is...given what Frank can still do even in a limited role...is he worth what his cost would be to your team? If he is, then who cares about sentiment of the fans? I think that even if Frank can only give us 300 at bats next year, if the price is low enough, he's going to be the single best option available at DH for those 300 at bats. I think giving Frank a one year deal with a $1M-$2M base salary + incentives would be a great deal for both sides if KW feels Frank can get 300 ABs out of him. I just don't like the fact that some people are saying we have to keep Frank around no matter what, I love the guy but if he can't produce anything next year, I don't really want him around.
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I'm gauranteeing that Konerko does not recieve a no trade clause from the Sox. We just don't do that sort of thing.
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QUOTE(GasHeGone @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:50 AM) Do you think this is as high and as long as the Sox will go? I hope not. Based on what Anaheim offers, I think we should give him five years at $65 million. If he doesn't like that, we don't need him. I dont' want to offer Konerko anymore than a 4 year deal with a mutual option for the 5th year and a team option for the 6th year, both years with buyouts. Anymore than 4 years for Konerko is much too high, also I wouldn't give him anymore than $13M per.
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QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) Some team will give him longer than a 4 year deal. I like the deal though, and don't think they should go higher. It certainly seems like a good place for KW to start off negotiations from. It's the exact type of deal I would be extremely happy will signing Konerko too. But in all likely hood it will not be enough.
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QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:42 AM) ESPN1000 just reported that the Sox are preparing a 4 year $50 million deal for Konerko. $12.5M per sounds good from the Sox point of view, not so much for Paul. Also, it doesn't appear 4 years will be enough.
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QUOTE(bighurt2719 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 07:27 AM) stop crunching numbers for once and just admit that frank is a part of the white sox. i just think it would be a shame for him to play somewhere else. This is the exact type of thinking that has gotten GMs fired in the past. A player spends a good portion or all of his career with a team then near the end of his career he's kept around for too long and ends up being more of a burden than a asset. I think you need to give up on your giant Frank man crush. The guy was an unbelievable talent for the Sox during his prime but the numbers don't lie, he may never play again let alone be someone you count on to produce for you.
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QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 10:13 AM) ^^^^^^^^^ You hardly took any position all year, you barely said anything about Crede or Castilla, and you don't even know who the hell Danys Baez is. Cut out this gloating s***. It's easy to talk s*** and call other people out when you have no opinion on anything during the course of the season. I just really don't see how someone who never voices any kind of unique stance on any subject can possibly talk so much s***.
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QUOTE(bighurt2719 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 07:41 AM) money says you wanted to trade crede for vinny castilla midway through this last season. number crunch that! ^^ This is getting extremely annoying.
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QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) Making this the official Konerko thread, so that we don't have to see a new thread about him everyday. The funny thing is, this will actually create more Konerko threads at first because people generally seem to ignore pinned topics.
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QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 09:54 PM) And Burke plays two positions Both poorly, there was really no need for Jaime Burke.
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Hmm, only showing the jersey of the player. Sounds like something someone would do if they were to make a Vince Young sig . . .
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QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 09:52 PM) Still curious as to why he wasn't called up in September, but thats all in the past. I do with him luck in Texas though. Raul Casanova is the superior defensive catcher.
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QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 09:47 PM) How'd he do that? And it looks like the Pacers are pulling a "Mini Bobcats" from last night. He landed awkwardly on Ron Artest's foot.
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QUOTE(mr_genius @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 09:04 PM) Dye is signed for next year and it is highly unlikely he will be our everyday at 1B. RF doesn't seem to be a concern. 1B, is obviously up in the air... however I doubt it will have little to do with the re-signing of Frank Thomas. There is no way Frank is playing first and I doubt Frank will command the type of money that the Sox would only spend if they had a large payroll opening (aka, no Konerko). If Frank is back it would be as a DH, and probably a part-time DH at that. The point is, if you have Konerko back next season then you know you have that big HR/RBI guy in him at 1B next year. Then you can afford to take a chance with Frank at DH next year. RF will be a highlighted position if Konerko does not resign, Dye could very well move to 1B meaning you have to fill that RF spot which would be easier to fill than the 1B spot. If Konerko walks, KW then has to find a way to fill a major hole left behind by a 40HR/100RBI man and DH is a position that could possibly be filled by a newly acquired player who could put up more stable numbers than Frank Thomas, not to mention more stable health wise as well.
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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 09:00 PM) I don't believe Randa is a free agent. Could of sworn he signed a 2 year deal last offseason. Terrible deal for the Padres either way. What were they thinking? Joe Randa is a free agent.
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FWIW . . . Brian Lawrence will make $3.5M in '06 with a $5.77M Team Option/550K buyout for '07.
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QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) It looks like Pauly is going to be an Angel. Thanx for the memories Pauly! Its been fun as hell and you truly were worth all the money we gave you. You were a HUGE peice of this puzzle we now know as the 2005 World Champion Chicago White Sox. We just don't have the financial resources that the Angels have. Time for KW to pull off some magic!! If he gets Pauly to stay god bless him, if he can't I completely understand. Overbay would be a great fit in our organization. But what would Milwaukee want in return? Probably Harris, a top prospect and one of our relievers. The Brewers have no need for Willie Harris.
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QUOTE(bighurt2719 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 08:12 PM) anyone else and i'd agree with you. however, this is the big hurt we are talking about. half of his at bats this past season were home runs. and all chisox fans must love frank. we need him back til he retires. The Sox will not give a new contract to Frank until they figure out what they're going to do with Konerko. Most everything this offseason is going to revolve around the DH/1B/RF spots. KW has to know what he has at 1B before he offers a new contract to a huge injury risk like Frank Thomas.
