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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 12:13 PM) How much of that figures includes considerations from other clubs? I know we were getting cash for Thome and Vazquez. Including the money from LAA for Cabrera, the confusing money from the Phils for Thome and cash from the Reds for Griffey: the team's final payroll was around $110M in 2008.

BWWWAAHAAHAHAHA! YES! What a great couple of days.

The $3.5M we seem to be sending to Atlanta offsets the money we're getting for the Dodgers this season for Pierre. We're currently at $92.55M.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:52 PM) Nope, Bill Jenkinson. He ranks Dunn as the top distance home run hitter in the game today. I thought they said James about 10 minutes before the interview then he started talking and I realized something was horribly, horribly wrong.

Bill James Jenkinson is on the Score right now talking Dunn, I'm sure it'll be a good listen.

$94.55M

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 12:50 PM) Sounds like we gave Atlanta some cash. Yeah, I see Jon Paul Morosi tweeted that.

Well if it is a straight up salary dump and we're not kicking in any cash then the payroll is down to $93.05M. The dumping of Jenks and Linebrink the past 2 days basically paid for Adam Dunn's 2011 salary (assuming it's $14M).

Josh Fields is available, non-tendered by the Royals.

14.00 Buehrle 1.20 Castro 14.00 Dunn 5.00 Floyd 8.35 Jackson 5.50 Linebrink 16.00 Peavy 8.50 Pierre 4.00 Pierzynski 2.75 Ramirez 12.00 Rios 4.75 Teahen 3.00 Thornton 1.25 Viciedo 1.75 Vizquel 102.05 Subtotal to 15 players - 3.50 Dodgers (Pierre) + ???? Manny + ???? Danks, Quentin, Pena 98.55 Total

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 10:23 PM) Is that counting Viciedo's money too? Yes. His $1.25M is included.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 10:01 PM) Actually, if they add Putz at 5 mil and Konerko for about 9, they don't add a lot of money since AJ took less and Jenks is gone. -2.67 AJ -3 (est) Kong -7.5 Jenks -4 Manny -1.5 Kotsay -.5 Jones +2 Putz +14 Dunn + salary jumps for younger guys + cheap MR + $400K Castro + $3M+ Danks + $2.25M Floyd + $500K Linebrink + $1M Peavy + Tony Pena salary increase + $2M Pierre + ~$1.8M Quentin + $1.65 Ramirez + $2.3M Rios + $2.5M Teahen + $750K Thornton + $375K Vizquel Our payroll is at about $98.55M right now not counting Pena, Quentin or Danks and assuming Dunn will be paid $14M in 2011 and Pierz will get $4M in 2011.

And THAT is why you don't offer him arbitration, he would have gotten about $7M through arb and we just locked him up for a million more on a 2 year deal. This has been a very, very good day.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 05:01 PM) KW said he gave Jerry 2 future directions at season's end: Young and cheap/All-in and expensive. Think we know now what Jerry chose. - Brett Ballantini This is the way it feels which is why I'm really not worried about the payroll, aside from Jenks I don't think we're going to shed much of anything from the payroll. This definitely feels like an all-in especially with Kenny's Williams' comments that there is room in the payroll for Dunn and Konerko and that it would be optimal.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 04:48 PM) Am I really the only one who doesn't care for this move? Great, we're building the team to be station to station, hit home runs or get shut out. Haven't we gone through this all before? Pierre, Beckham, Rios, Ramirez, Morel and even Quentin Station to station? They'll be slow at 3 positions: catcher, DH and 1B. 1 of those is typically an old guy with bad knees and the other 2 are boppers, how many teams have these speedsters at C, 1B and DH? You just replaced the slow, s***ty Kotsay with the slow, awesome Dunn. Sounds like a win to me.

There's going to be a portion of the fan base that will absolutely HATE Adam Dunn. This is a terrific day.

Adam Dunn can run a little, he's a far better athlete than any of the slow moving players we've had in town over the years.

Dontrelle wasn't given that contract until he landed in Detroit, they were under no obligation to extend him, they CHOSE to give him that ridiculous contract, the Marlins are not the ones that shelled out the $29M. The Marlins insisted on Dontrelle being included in the trade to slightly increase the value they would receive in the deal, not to dump a contract: Dontrelle was arbitration eligible going into the 2008 season, if the Marlins didn't want to pay him the ~$7M he was due in arb they could have just non-tendered him but including him in the Cabrera trade and possibly receive an extra player or 2 in the deal was a much better option -- keep in mind there were 4 other players included in the trade aside from Miller and Maybin -- they had all the bargaining power in trade talks seeing as how they were dangling one of the most talented players in the game and they took advantage of it. Dontrelle Willis being included in the trade was a bad thing because of both monetary and personnel concerns: personnel because you're giving up a little extra to include him in the deal and monetary because you were going to have to pay him to keep him around rather than non-tendering him since you just gave up an extra player or two to acquire him since that was the only way to land Miggy.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 11, 2010 -> 02:45 AM) Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World Best movie of the year. Sure it's highly stylized and possibly overly clever but it's just so much god damn fun. I love Edgar Wright.

November 23rd is the last day to offer arbitration, so there's no hurry. If AJ, Konerko, Manny (Type A's) or Putz (Type B ) are signed before then the Sox will receive draft pick compensation without the risk of offering arbitration.

QUOTE (balfanman @ Oct 31, 2010 -> 09:00 PM) I don't believe that your correct on this. If the Sox trade Buehrle the trade has to be approved by Buehrle as he has 10 and 5 rights. And the window for the option year to kick in if traded is gone. That 5th year was only if he was traded by July 15 of this year. It no longer applies. That is what I can remember about his contract. If someone knows how to check this for sure it would be appreciated. You're 100% correct; if he's traded this offseason the team that picks him up will only be on the hook for his $14M 2011 salary. The escalators and option year were just added in lieu of giving him a full no trade clause, now that his 10/5 rights have kicked in those are no longer in effect.

or HDMI. My PC is pretty low scale and even it has an HDMI output. Though I imagine playing a PC game from chair on a TV would be pretty uncomfortable.

QUOTE (Felix @ Oct 20, 2010 -> 05:50 PM) You misunderstand my point. Fallout is a great series and Fallout 3 was a very good game (the engine and visuals were great). The writing/dialogue/plot/etc. wasn't nearly as good as the original two Fallouts, but that's bound to happen. New Vegas will probably be more of the same, which is fine. But anyway, play it on the PC. Fallout is a PC game. Always has been. There's a special place in hell for people that play games like it (say, Halflife 1 or 2) on PS3/360, etc. Not all of us are f***ing losers with tricked out PCs capable of playing games on high settings. f***ing nerd.

You definitely have to install Fallout 3 to the HDD on the PS3 but many have complained that the game is still loading an awful lot off the disc which is crazy inefficient.

You guys are playing the 360 version, I guarantee the PS3 game is far, far worse. I know Gamespot docked the PS3 version of Fallout 3 half a point because of all the glitches and frequent freezing, Bethesda just does a s***ty job working with the PS3 format then when EVERYONE has problems with the game they blame the consumer claiming their game is fine but you just got the disc dirty or your PS3 is overheating which is bulls***. The Point Lookout expansion was almost unplayable due to freezing, if you store items in the motel; after a while it will just freeze up every time you approach the room.