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QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 08:23 PM) Porcello/Boras wanted to try for a 10 million signing bonus. I'd rather we give that to a FA. When we get a top 10 pick next year, who do you think will represent anything of value at that level at that point.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 08:18 PM) Good for Verlander. Now how is he throwing 102 in the 9th after throwing so many of those high leverage innings. I expected him to throw about 88 this year based on our findings. I mean they did get to the world series after all.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 08:14 PM) Jesus Christ... Ninth inning, Verlander over the century mark, second pitch fastball at 98, third pitch slider outside corner. It'll be fun facing him, Bonderman, Porcello and Miller the next ten years. They didnt want Porcello. They were overjoyed and orgasmic that their choice was still on the board. Just like McCullough last year and Broadway the year before. We give that s***head Borchard a 5 mill bonus, and then we cant give it to anyone else. What a joke.

QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 08:03 PM) ***NEWSFLASH*** the NBA finals are on ABC. tune in if you want to watch chicago's divisional rivals continue to get embarassed. no ring for you lebron! ***NEWSFLASH***** No one cares about 2 teams that have nothing to do with Chicago. How many titles have the bulls won, and we have people crapping on a losing city being denied a title. Michael Jordan still haunts Cleveland fans to this day.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 07:28 PM) Holy Christ that is silly. Let the youngins PLAY!!! I have a strong feeling that Cintron will thankfully be traded for a non-prospect or cash considerations in another month or so. Cintron has arm issues. He couldnt make throws over the weekend. And now we put him at third. Either someone has a cruel sense of humor, or they overvalue him.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 07:25 PM) just out of curiosity, what is the point of bringing in Cintron and taking out Fields? You get some more latin flair on the field, and a guy who cant throw across the field. This is about to get comical.

Little league fundamentals by Dye. No chance at the runner at home, he throws it in and the trailer goes into the 2nd.

short quick strokes can go a long way in a hitters park. I wonder if that will ever sink to the heads of our players and coaches. Short quick strokes, line drive strokes work in a hitters park. Because the ball still can go out.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 07:19 PM) Both pitches FYI drilled Rowand right in the back; right on the numbers. It wasnt on purpose.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 07:18 PM) don't worry, pods will come back and make everything right. He better be non-tendered this off season.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 07:11 PM) 100% agree. You find anyone to take the contract, you have yourself a good deal. Getting Jose, more importantly, getting Jose's contract off the books, you make your off-season A lot easier. The mets and their gm need 2 aging cubans. They can keep each other company.

This is the part of the scary movie, where the killer disappears but you start to hear the music. And you are swimming in the foggy lake,

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 06:57 PM) I think its more than that. We have watched the decline of an old player. Jose was at 94-96 mph on his fastball which has fallen off to 88-91. He no longer has the nasty break on his sidearm fastballs or his two-seemers. He's done, and frankly we should deal him to philly or NYM asap. But Rock that demise happened way too quick to be age. He went from throwing all of his pitches 3/4 and above to now he is a side armer. He stopped throwing over the top, the minute his sciatica acted up. When he came back from the DL he wasnt the same.

Contreras has a tin head. The minute someone hits him or something bad happen behind him, he falls apart.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 06:52 PM) Its good and predictable to hear Hawk start with the injury excuses. Pods goes down.....Erstad goes down.......Ozuna goes down.............Crede goes down.........You lose your speed and power. Good to know that the Sox success hinges on an almost always injured not very good Pods. A usually injured had a tough time finding a regular job Erstad, a six year minor league free agent Ozuna,and a guy with known back issues in Crede. Lets see, the only one that went down that was unexpected was Ozuna. Pods has how many groin issues. Erstad, well come on now. Crede has spent a few times mending his back over the last few. This is like the cubs blaming their lack of depth in their pitching staff because Prior and Wood went out.

Kicking those balls at 2nd makes for long innings.

Dye needs to play like this for a few weeks so we can drive up his value. Hawk is saying how the pitching and bullpen better step up. How about the offense Santo with legs. How about the 30th ranked offense. Can they score some runs like say more than 3.9 a game. We are in the AL after all.

Now hawk is on the bandwagon of how our offense is bad because of Pods/Erstad/Crede's injuries. Sure, Dye and Kong havent hit because of Pods and Erstad. So when they were all here and we couldnt hit that was because of something else. The excuse machine is in full affect.

QUOTE(Fantl916 @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 06:37 PM) i thought that was gone... i just threw my mouse... Did it squeak.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 06:36 PM) can we warm up danks and put him in there today then skip him in the rotation? Why do you want to skip danks.

Jose needs to change his shorts during the inning break. That brown stuff down his leg might stink more around the 3rd inning.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 04:13 PM) Here's what I don't get. Granted, we don't spend like the Yanks or Boston, but overall we rank #5 in team salary, according to espn.com Link here. Here's how our division ranks: Cleveland: #23 Detroit: #9 Minnesota: #18 Kansas City: #22 So we outspend everybody in the division, the closest by $13 million, but have won the division once since 2000. Other teams that spend less than us: Atlanta, Oakland and St. Louis, for example. Anaheim is just ahead of us at #4. So let's take Minny: they rank #18 in spending but yet they're the all-around consumate team who Ozzie rightly calls the piranhas, and after whom we were modeled in 2005. They don't spend the bucks, so obviously they have a great farm system. So how come we don't? We seem stuck in this weird limbo between spend-for-talent teams like Boston/NYY and consistently good teams with tiny payrolls but great systems like Cleveland or Minny. What is our problem? Shouldn't we be one or the other? Or, at best, a balancing act? Yet we seem to flirt with spending some bucks but trying to be smaller-market-minded, but with no farm system that smaller-market-minded teams almost have to have. I don't get it. Or am I missing something? Dont get them all in a bunch over this. We are very very new to this whole big market team thing. We have been for a while a team that drafts to maximize its value, and then to use it to get vets. Now we are trying to change this into a hybrid model of mixing home grown talent with some FA talent. Which is what we will be, however after decimating our minors for years it will take a bit to repopulate it. My biggest concern is that we draft the best talent, and that our instructors teach them correctly.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 01:05 PM) some time in the second half of last year. That's when this offense turned into the slow, lethargic, one-dimensional style of offense that it is. The boston series at the Cell right before the ASB is when this team decided to die. We were up what 6 or 9 in the wild card going into that series. The Yankee series right after the break picked up with us up in the wild card by a bunch, and the Yankees just ripped into us and we lost our wild card lead within the next week or so.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 12:18 PM) well put, I think it was a very well constructed team that "on paper" translated to the field. Especially the playoff run, their 11-1 mark ranks up with some of the better WS teams in history, and the pitching performance in the ALCS were doing things that hadn't happened since the 1950's and 20's. The 05 team pitched like crazy all year long with great starting pitching, and a deep bullpen. The offense was terrible in 05, not end of the world terrible like these guys, but bad in the AL. What happened was the offense got hot at the best possible time, late in September going into the playoffs. The pitching got back on track and everything flew. Here is another thing. When the ball was hit in play, someone made a play on it. We didnt beat ourselves.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 12:07 PM) can someone explain to me when cole hamels became the greatest pitcher ever to live? yes he is a fantastic young pitcher, and i know our offense is struggling, but please lets give his nutsack a little air...its not like hes santana yet He pitches with the evil hand, the hand that hold us to an average of .212.