southsideirish71

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 09:07 PM) you didnt feel anything special about Arow when he first came to the sox? man i remember telling my wife the first time i saw him play "this is the kinda guy that will win a WS for the sox". dont you remember he didnt get to play right away under Jerry Manure? i was dying to see that guy play everday and see what he would contribute. he presented self confidence, hard work, & desire. when he didnt play well he wore it on his face & chest. i like a guy on the team that can lead thru difficult times. i could just tell that he wasnt going to be the kinda guy who wasnt going to settle for losing. look he certainly wasnt the team last year but IMO he represented what defines champions from winners... Enough of the Rowand splooging. Lets dispell some of the great Rowand couldnt let this team lose crap. If he couldnt settle for losing, why did he basically stop hitting when the going go tough. .245 BA in August with a .286OBP and a .729OPS .235 BA in September with a .313OBP and a .705OPS And Mr. Clutch for close and late batted a robust .221

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 09:07 PM) Excuse you... I am sure that you loved when he K'd like 8 times in a row over a 2 game period. And I believe he did that like twice.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 08:59 PM) Way to go, Thome. Why am I not surprised? The entire reason for picking up a lefty power AB was to neutralize a righty with a good slider. Paulie now pulls a slider that started way. Who was the genius the other day that was out here telling us all that Konerko hits to all fields. Example of A on why that theory is dead wrong.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 08:57 PM) Or Thome... Jose the eptiome of the Greg Walker approach. Lift and Pull and swing for the fences every f***ing time you are up there. He was worthless. And people had this silly idea he was clutch based on one year and a few AB. Hitters under 240 are not clutch.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 20, 2006 -> 08:51 PM) That right there is why he gets a free pass, the occasional pointless blast into the left field stands is worth a lot in some people's minds. Its funny. He is Jose Valentin with better D. Just like Jose he swings every single time trying to hit the ball on the dan ryan. And like Jose people think he is clutch or whatever because he runs into one every so often. Jose had a similiar average and similiar mental approach at the plate. I hated Valentin when he was here, and I am not fond of his replacement that is the same guy.

I get a kick out of how people crap all over Anderson the rook, who has a .231 BA, who started out like crap, and has turned it on. Yet Captain Profundo over at SS, who has a 3 point advantage over BA, who is a vet. Whose BA has dropped year after year gets a free pass from fans and from our goofy manager. I see the lift and pull offense is in full effect, we score a bunch of runs last night, and now we are struggling to get hits again. This is so 2003/2004 of our offense.

You dont have to blow up s***. Ditch Prancer, put someone in LF who has a pulse. Ditch Uribe, get someone who has a pulse. Ditch Garcia and his 86mph fastball. Invite Cora and Walker to a conference, when they show up, its just HR with some forms for them to fill out. Hire a hitting coach that preaches OBP and line drive swings, and being a tough out. Hire a 3rd base coach that isnt a pinwheel.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 12:57 PM) Yikes. A game thread with Detroit and no replies. Has it really come to this? Sheesh. Lift and Pull, that is all.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 11:47 AM) So funny that the sox lead the league in BA with runners in scoring position, and many of you are still trying to debate that the offense is the real issue here. Heres a clue to why we wont make the playoffs Detroit 745 RS 605 RA Minn 741 RS 636 RA Sox 816 RS 722 RA How can you say the offense hasnt had anything to do with our failure, especially in the 2nd half. Great 816 runs scored, 520 of those scored in the first half. We are 13th in the majors in runs scored in the 2nd half. We are behind legendary scoring offenses like the Chicago Cubs and the Florida Marlins. In the second half we have scored a whole 296 runs while giving up 307 runs 4.68ERA. In the first half we scored 520 runs, and gave up 415. 4.44 ERA So our pitching was slightly worse in the 2nd half, but our run production dropped quite a bit.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 12:54 AM) It's getting close to "Is Mark Buehrle an Ace?" like proportions. That sounds just oh so damn sweet, it really does and plausable at that. Alright lets just say for a second that this is all true and Ozzie/KW really don't like eachother just imagine for a second what it would have been like if the Sox had retained Frank Thomas for the '06 season. Kenny hates Ozzie Ozzie hates Kenny Kenny hates Frank Frank hates Kenny Ozzie hates Frank Frank hates Ozzie Reinsdorf loves Frank Frank loves Reinsdorf KW is so so with Reinsdorf Reinsdorf is so so with Kenny It's like a badass baseball soap oprah. And then lets toss in the not aware of whats going on. Here is Kongs quote about Harrelson stating that they lack intensity. "It's a free country," Konerko said. "Everybody's entitled to their opinions. I'm not going to say he's wrong or right. You're programmed to play. Sometimes you execute, sometimes you don't. That's the way I look at it." So that is his wrap up of his performance this year. Thank god he is our captain. Good lord.

QUOTE(JERMAINEDYE4MVP @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 12:35 AM) In a 3 game series ANYTHING is possible... and exactly HOW much can a guy OWN one team? its not like we've enver beaten santana before. its possible. just don't stop beliving guys!!! keep the fait! it aint OVA until its OVA! Mr. Rourke "Tatoo, that is JermaineDye4MVP. He has a broken heart, but never gives up on his whitesox. Even as logic slaps him in the face, he still believes. 12 games left and a almost 5 game deficit." Tatoo "So how are we to help him" Mr. Rourke "We are going to grant him his wish" Tatoo "Oh no, we are going to erase the entire existance of the Twins and Tigers" Mr. Rourke "Its the only way the sox will make it this late in the season." Tatoo "But what if Minny gets cold and the sox go on a 11-1 run" Mr Rourke "Tatoo, how many times must I tell you not to take acid before we greet the guests"

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 12:21 AM) I wouldn't even make a big deal about it if he said something about that thing in left field or profundo at short. Heads tonights game was a microcosm of Ozzies failed logic. He takes out Anderson to get a lefty AB. Okay, I can deal with that. But then after Pods gets on. He lets profundo who has just about the same BA as BA. But one difference, Profundo is a vet, he has been crappy all year long, not just started out bad like BA. Ross Gload or Cintron should of come up for Profundo. But unfortunately Uribe's 234 is acceptable, but BA's 234 is bad. I dont get it.

QUOTE(JERMAINEDYE4MVP @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 12:27 AM) I have a feeling that we will go on a good run starting tomorrow. I just do. We're only 4.5 out of the WC with 3 games left with Minny.. and as any true baseball fans know, ANYTHING is possibel that last series.. anything could happen. Maybe just maybe the sox go can make up 2.5 games by then and GO TO THE DOME and SWEEP the TWINS and then We get out magic back and ROLL thru the playoffs once agian and REPEAT! DON"T STOP>>>BELIEVING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 18, 2006 -> 10:40 PM) So am I the only one who won't watch a single game of the playoffs this year? Nope, I refuse to watch. Everytime I see some team from the AL I will know that if our guys didnt play with their heads collectively in their asses they could be there, and they could run with any of them. But take head, insert into anus, and call it a season is what they did. I was also at this abortion we called a game. I have one question, how does Prancer get into this f***ing game, but Gload who had 3 hits sits on the bench. Ozzie is a mope to the very end.

Gload gets a bunch of hits, and returns to the bench. Nice one Ozzie. But you get your dimunitive speed guy up at the top of the lineup. Uribe cant hit anything yet starts every single game.

Well considering this is the last ticket in my plan, except for my ALCS tickets, I get 2 of them in my Ozzie plan, wooo hooo. I am going to go there with this thought. I am going to have a few beers, and a few brats, enjoy one more day of the game of summer, and then give it a fine farewell and look forward to the hotstove season. Maybe they can shock us and have a miracle happen. If not I thank them for last year, and hope to god they come out with their pride hurt, and a new goal, and a purpose. And hopefully Cora and Walker are spending their last days as whitesox employees. That at least will make me happy about 07.

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Sep 18, 2006 -> 10:06 AM) Sorry ...........I'm still a FRANK THOMAS FAN, if you couldnt smile watching the Best Sox Hitter ever ..... The name on the front means a crapload more than any name on the back. I liked Frank, and I am a big Frank Thomas fan( of his playing), but the minute he steps up near the plate against us. I want him struckout silly every single time. I could care less if he was 0-15 against us and booed out of the stadium. He is not a whitesox player anymore. You can cheer for a player, but to get a smile from watching a guy end your teams season is f***ed up. We should of won this f***ing thing easily if we played to our level. Its our own damn fault we are not in the dance this year. I will not watch the playoff this year, because I will know in my heart that if we played to our level no team in the damn playoffs could of beat this team, if they pitched, hit and played D to their capabilities.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Sep 17, 2006 -> 09:46 PM) I think Kalapse said it in another thread, and I've been saying it for about two months. This season will go down as the most dissapointing in recent memory. Only the '94 season compares, IMO. This team simply fell apart starting with that last series with Boston going into the break. I am waiting to hear KW speak about it the day after the regular season ends. Because I remember him getitng livid when Carlos Lee and Jose Valentin did the same thing swinging for the fences with RISP and less than 2 outs. Now we have a team filled with guys doing the same thing. He hates this kind of crap.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 17, 2006 -> 09:44 PM) No it isn't. Are you serious? There have been plenty worse than this monstrocity of mediocrity. Many many many worse than this. Greg, When you have a team as talented as this one, coming off of a world series, do you think its a bit disasterous that they dont make the playoffs. The 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001 teams frustrated me. In 1997 when we had the white flag trade I nearly lost my mind on the give up. But this one should of made the playoffs. There was not one major injury this year. 9 game lead on the twinks at the ASB and a 6 game lead on the yanks. Thats a choke job Greg. Manuel took a lot of "talented" teams to the brink of the playoffs only to watch them s*** themselves in the month of september. This is no different, just more painful. This team should of been in the dance. But they wont get a chance to make it. And its entirely of their own fault collectively.

QUOTE(credeisamazing @ Sep 17, 2006 -> 09:35 PM) what happened to all the people that had faith in the team?? this post is disgusting me with the way that people are acting. it's still possible. it's going to be hard, but it's still there. you never knwo what's going to happen. seriously though, that's a ridiculous way to act. things happen. we came off a championship year, so the standards are higher, but it's not the same team. suck it up and think about it. have faith in your team The cubs sell their fans believe blue wristbands for a 1 dollar. I am a realist, and what about a team who has played under 500 baseball for half of the season screams, that they can overcome a 4 game lead in 14 games.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Sep 17, 2006 -> 07:32 PM) it's time for us to start debating who want in LF, at SS, backup catcher and in the bullpen. backup the truck. time to clean house. and bring back Rowand. of all the guys we traded away, he's the one I think we missed most in the clubhouse. You Rowand worshipers are funny. The guy hit .245 in August, and he hit .235 in September and hit for nothing in the playoffs. Yet in your mind, because you saw him throw himself on the ground to catch a ball, that Brian glides in to catch without breaking a sweat, you think that the season is lost becaused of his missing presence. Good lord what next, a candle memento for Timo Perez and El Duque. The 2nd half of this season our hitters became pull hitters for the most part and were exploited by low and away pitching. Rowand would of been one of many right handed victims on low and away stuff just like he was last year. If AJ was the AJ of the first half when he forgot about power asperations, and just shot the ball all over and had a great average he would of been a much better fit than the AJ who hit .250 and had more power. If Thome was the same guy earlier in the year who hit the ball all over the field hard. If Konerko was a guy who picked up people who walked Thome, and made them pay. Then our offense would of been fine. But to blame it on someone is missing that was on the WS DVD and blame it on that is a joke.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Sep 17, 2006 -> 05:21 PM) That's a GM issue. THe GM is not coming up with the hitting approach of the team.

We must have the record for bad backs on a mlb club. Crede, Dye, Konerko, AJ, Thome, Conteras, insert player here. Give them an MRI, if the MRI comes back clean, then give them a shot, and if its just a pain they have to deal with give them an epdiural. Oddly it can stop the pain of childbirth, I think it can help with the swing of Joe Crede.

Long Looping swing by Crede for strike one. And then the pattended pull to the SS GIDP for the rally killer.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 17, 2006 -> 05:15 PM) Does anyone kill a rally quicker than Thome? He is on the bench with bad back, and 24 double plays.