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QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 11:54 AM) Maybe bring up some fireballers from the minors and let them throw at opponents to their hearts content until they are ejected, just to relieve some stress. Then whenever we want to intimidate other teams bring them up again and have them stare from the pen. What fireballers from the minors.

QUOTE(SoxFan76 @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 09:05 AM) Sort of off topic, but not. I don't know who the minor league experts are around here, but I'm going to thow this one out there? My buddy threw 87-89 in high school, went to college and actually LOST 3 or 4 miles off his fastball. This is with increased physical training, higher competition, and better coaching. Does this happen a lot? My velocity dramatically increased from high school to my freshman year of college. I gained about 6 inches in height from my senior year to January of my Freshman year. My velocity in high school was 78-80 mph I think, I could top it off at 82. My freshman year I was humming it in there at 87-89 and could break 90 depending on the gun. I did a ton of running in the offseason. But I also did a ton of long toss in the fall. I think that, plus my height helped me gain velocity in a short period of time. I lost velocity in my junior year, but that was to damage in my elbow and my shoulder that was seen with an MRI. If his mechanics changed and he isnt driving off the mound a lot. If he is out of shape, if he worked out a ton and gained a lot of muscle and isnt as flexible as he was. If he is overworked that could be another thing. I pitched a lot more innings between college and playing in competitive summer collegiate leagues and playing fall baseball. Any of these things could be a reason. Just see if its isolated or this is a trend for him.

I have a few superstitions. Dont throw meatballs to hitters on 0-2 with men on. Dont try and hit every pitch over the fence. And if a ball is hit to you, catch it. These are the reasons they are losing.

He is going to get worked over in prison.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 10:38 AM) I'm real worried now that the Twins have pulled even. Why? Garcia. Vazquez. If we could switch Vazquez and McCarthy, then trade for Zito and get rid of Freddy, I'd be so much happier. As it stands, I'd just be happy by switching Brandon and Javier. The only way bmac starts this year is either when we are out of contention alltogether, someone admits that they are hurt, or KW trades on the SP. ozzie will run these guys out no matter how many runs they give up. Forever.

Well to all those who constantly say, no matter what if the season ended today we would be in the wild card. That is no longer the case. The Yankees would be the wild card. Time for the whitesox to man up and start to fishing hit, pitch and play defense.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 05:56 PM) That can't be right. I know it's probably a high number, but I wouldn't have guessed 80. I'd say close to 50-60% of games Guillen has had his opening-day lineup. How many games do you see the entire starting lineup without one sub come into. Maybe 1 time in the last week or so. The number might not be that far off.

I saw this little tidbit on another board. I havent researched this to be true, but if it is, then what the hell are we doing . We have played 100 games so far. Our opening day lineup has played as a unit in 20 games. We are 17-3 in those games.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 05:43 PM) Misunderstood? Guillen himself has replied, when asked why a starter was left out, that he was attempting to give his starter an opportunity to win. I know this isn't an exact quote, but it isn't a figment of my imagination, either. Concerning yourself with a starters victory total means, in essence, leaving them out one inning more than necessary. This isn't Guillen thinking, "I rather see a 'W' next to Garcia than Jenks," but him disregarding a pitchers fatigue or a team's previous inning success against someone. How many times have we seen Garcia battle though the 6th or 7th inning, just escape, and come out the following inning only to give up a run? All with a rested bullpen. You can call it instilling confidence, I believe it's failing to recognize a game situation. Our pen has pitched 253 innings. The lowest in the AL by over 20 innings.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 05:26 PM) I said this before the year, and it's more accurate now than ever before: if the main 5 starting pitchers on this Sox team struggle this year, we're not making the playoffs. McCarthy's not going to get moved into the rotation, end of story. When we acquired Vazquez (and re-signed JG/JC), McCarthy's 2006 season was spoiled. BTW, a handful of McCarthy's great starts last year were against teams that the rest of our pitching staff really struggled against. He 2 hit Boston in Boston and basically did the same thing to Texas in Texas.

Thank god that your stats as a reliever dont exactly translate to your stats as a starter. Francisco Liriano as a reliever this year ERA 3.22 1.39 WHIP Francisco Liriano the starter 1.59 ERA .86 WHIP And now we have Brandon McCarthy as a reliever ERA 3.83 with a 1.23 WHIP Surely he cannot best nor crack our stellar allstar rotation. Not with those numbers. Maybe medicore Liriano should of stayed in his bullpen with his less than stellar relief numbers also.

Mark Buerhle ERA in July 11.39 Vazquez 6.48 Somehow I think Bmac might be better than that right now. But then again Felix Diaz/Danny Wright/Munoz had similiar numbers to these guys. Maybe we gave up on Jason Grilli to early also.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 04:37 PM) I'm at a point where we could even sweep the O's and Royals and I still wouldn't think very much of this team. We failed against the good teams. This team needs to prove itself against the AL's best for me to become optimistic about their chances. Well we need to sweep the Royals. And before someone pipes up with they are still a major league team, and they play better at home. No they are bad. Teams all over baseball are beating the ever living snot out of them. Bedard will own us tomorrow night.

Against Silva and his almost 7 ERA, we scratched 3 runs.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 04:24 PM) Hooray Bombs away!!!!

Ozzie in the postgame.... No plans for bmac in the rotation. We wish the current pitchers get better. Nice

Post allstar break stars Konerko .167 BA Pods .235 with a .297 OBP AJ .147BA Cintron is hitting .231 Post allstar we have a 5.61ERA Post allstar break we are batting .245 We are the KC Royals right now.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 04:11 PM) How about Mark Buehlre? He's TERRIBLE. It may be to a point where, unless he rebounds, we may have to reconsider his option for next year. Is it worth paying Buehrle 10 million if he's producing at his current rate? I'm sure he'll rebound -- it's impossible to remain this bad -- but if he's giving up 5ER every other outing it may be wise to consider another path. It's past the point where this is a slump. He's either been completely figured out or pitching through an injury. Well at least we have Bmac to pitch to a batter or two with men on. We can then mothball him till the royals series.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 04:08 PM) We can recover when we start producing on both sides. Granted, giving up seven runs is unacceptable, but this 2-3 run sheet is killing us. Or being unable to score but once during a game. Somebody in the game thread talked about how Minny sprays balls all over the field and hits homers when we make pitching mistakes. HELLO. HERE'S MY LESSON: DON'T HATE MINNESOTA. DON'T ENVY THEM. E M U L A T E THEM! IT'S WHAT WE DID LAST SEASON! WE'RE STILL NOT MATHEMATICALLY OUT OF IT YET, SO...until that time, I'd suggest we take a look at them as something which should be emulated, and quick. We did emulate them. I remember a post season KW speech talking about grinders. How we will play baseball the right way. Then our guys did that, and this year our hitters saw the fence so close, and then they said to themselves, well if I just get it up in the air it should go. Sportscenter will have me on, and life will be good.

QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 04:05 PM) you can listen to the postgame on www.670thescore.com Hi my name is Chris Rongey. And as I look at today, we are so close to running off a 10 game win streak. have faith whitesox fans. Mark was just unable to make a big pitch, he almost got out of the game unscaithed. Our hitting is almost there. We are still in the wild card lead, and I will drink to that. We have a few months to play great baseball and rattle off 40 in a row.

GRINDER RULE NUMBER 201 CORPSEBALL IS A SUMMER TRADITION

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 02:08 PM) Too bad I had it up way after Santana had better numbers than Buerhle, and way before Contreras got injured. I took it down because Kalapse said I never updated it, which I didn't, so I stopped. But I have never said Buerhle is better than Santana on the hole. Twice I've said that Buerhle has been better than Santana over a certain amount of time and that was the beginning of this year and last year in August, at which both times it was true. And I said to Kalapse at hte beginning of this year, I know they are both better now but Santana will be better over all the end of the year. He always is. But it's cool. Keep making up spiff and taking shots from behind in the dark. Just like a little girl. Anybody can do that spiff. I am just stating a fact, and now you are taking personal shots. You did make the comment, that is not a shot, that is a fact. And now you come up with a witty comment about being a little girl. Maybe you should take a chance and read the guidelines about personal attacks. I know you enjoy taking a jab here and there, but I suggest you abide by the rules of the board.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 01:59 PM) Nice passing shot. Not even man enough to call it out. Typical around here of late. Too bad I never said that in the first place. I doubt anybody around here ever said, or thinks, that Mark is or was better than Santana. Actually you did say it. You said you would rather have Buerhle over Santana. And you had their stats in your sig this year, that was until Santana blew past both Contreras and buerhle. Then mysteriously it went dark.

Thank god Mr. Dergan is getting on base.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 01:54 PM) Buehrle's ERA is now 4.63. I wonder if people think he's still better than Johan Santana. There is only one poster that believest that, and I am sure that he thinks that Mark is just unlucky.