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QUOTE(jphat007 @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 02:17 PM) haha. I'm just going to save you the trouble and assume you didn't even read my post. You saw "consistent" and decided to type something. I said he was "consistent" between home and away. Which he was. I didn't say he say he was consistent from month to month. Over the course of the entire season he was virtually the same at home on the road. And further, I didn't say Cell was a bad park to hit in. I said you don't know what he'll do here. But you DO know what he'll do on the road because he's done it in his entire career. But don't even bother to comprehend the post. Just spout off. Works much better. Thanks Bob for the lesson. You keep thinking that blalock is a platoon player and then lecture me about points on your post.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) But at least Crede is consistently medicore. Blalock is one of the worst players in the league on the road and solid at home. But thats assuming that those numbers will translate here. Which you can't assume. It is a known quantity what he will do on the road. You can't expect him to keep up at the pace that he did at Arlington. He might, but it is not a gaurentee. Creede is mediocre at home and away. Though at the end of last year it was obvious he was taking stpes in the right direction. Blalock on the other hand just sucked all around. He is consistent? Crede goes into slumps for weeks if not for a month or so. He hits 280 for a month, then 125 for the next. I keep forgetting that Arlington is such a hitters paridise and the Cell is a hitters hell.

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 11:58 AM) I’m sorry to hear that. I know it's easy to be cynical sometimes. On the off chance you might still be curious about finding out a bit more about this veteran – her upbeat take on life and her future after suffering catastrophic injuries in service to her country; and her unflagging support for the military - here are a few more links. Don’t worry. They’re almost entirely apolitical. And pretty darn inspiring. Can-do spirit rises from crash Injured soldier, inspirational woman An Amputee's Long Walk Back to Flight Duty (9 minute NPR sound clip) Very inspiring, however outside of being an injuried vet, what are her qualifications. What is her stand on important issues, outside of been an Emanuel recruit and spoken opponent of the war. I have an Uncle that came over from Ireland and like a few of my relatives including my father he decided to join the army to help get his citizenship on the fasttrack. He lost one of his legs in vietnam, did this in the service of a country he barely lived in but already loved and wanted to be a part of. Now is he qualified to become a member of congress? People who serve this country and give up everything deserve our respect and our honor. However I feel that there is a piti factor being pushed here by the democrats and members of the media.

QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 02:44 PM) If Clinton would have done this, Congress would have tried to impeach him for it! God forbid if right after 9/11 a few phones were tapped with calls going outside the us. Now the liberals want him investigated. Good grief. Now on the other hand I guess you can sell out your countries security for the next 20 years and get a few campaign donations and you are hailed as a hero by the left. Chips for the Chinese

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 10:33 AM) Philosophically, I’m against popular election of judges. So I usually refuse to vote for any of them unless I’m aware of a particular one who’s really qualified. In Chicago, no matter what their color or creed, they always seem to magically have Irish names anyway. And what is wrong with an Irish name. I vote in every single election, have knocked on doors, volunteered to be an election judge a few times. I have done my share.

Well opening day is pretty much gone for the Ozzie plan. Hopefully they give out the rings on Tuesday to make it worth missing opening night. I got my plan set. Did a lot of Monday and Tuesday games in the Upper Deck. You cannot beat the price of this. 385 with tax for 13 games for 2 seats.

Jesus was a jew the last time I checked, so learning about the Jewish faith and their practices is a good thing. Learning about other religions shows how similiar they all really are.

Have a very Happy Festivus!!!

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:22 AM) What exactly can the Israeli's do? Launch airstrikes against Iranian nuclear targets? Unlike Iraq, Iran's nuclear program is widely spread out and often in fortified locations, obviously to protect against exactly the sort of attack that the Israelis launched on Iraq in the 80's. It would take several days of bombing to pull off any real damage. Furthermore, the Israeli jets cannot reach Iran and return on normal fuel tanks - the Iraqi government would have to give the Israelis permission to refuel inflight over Iraqi territory, something that will only happen if the U.S. forces the Iraqis to allow it (which would obviously serve as an anti-American rallying point in Iraq.) Furthermore, despite previous successes of the Mossad, it's still an open question whether or not people actually know the full extent of any Iranian nuclear program...they could very well have sites that no one currently knows about. And finally...Iran's military is not pathetic and weak, like Iraq's was before we invaded. They have the capability to launch strikes on Israel in response, possibly including Chemical attacks. Iran doesn't have to get its hands on a bomb to kill millions of Israelis. They have the extended version of the F-15E which has the range to fly and bomb Iran and come back. If a missle hits Israel with a chemical weapon, Tehran will reach the 10,000 degrees in a split second. I figure a nice airburst 1500 feet above the city would be the response for the chemical weapon.

QUOTE(valponick @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 11:38 AM) I'm not trying to get anywhere. He's just as good of a hitter as everyone thinks, that's all I was saying. What qualifies a good hitter then??? I mean if BA, OPS, Silver Slugger, MVP considerations doesn't qualify you as a good hitter. Thank God we haven't lost sweet swinging Timo Perez or Thunderbat Joe Borchard. We almost lost some of the grandest hitters in our lifetime

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 04:26 PM) Dude stop Im crying over here from laughing so hard.. How many times last year did we hear hawk go.. Crede pops up?!?!?! We have had people dedicate their username to this. We have an Ihatecrede and a credepopsup

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 04:21 PM) But I'm saying, you put Crede in the 3-4-5 hole like Blalock is and you have the same numbers as Blalock. There is not much of a difference at all. And I'm not say Crede would be a .300 hitter, but I'm saying around .270-.280. And protection does affect a hitter. Credes problem with hitting .270 or higher has nothing to do with his position in the batting order. It has a lot to do with his hitting the ball making contact, but straight up. Now if they would move the fences directly above the infield, Crede jacks 90 homers next year.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 04:18 PM) I don't know if we should trade for Blalock or not but why do people worry so much that he only hits well at Ameriquest? Would he not hit at the Cell as well? Thats why we are putting Garland in the deal also, we are looking to get the operator of their scoreboard at Ameriquest. Our collective BA at home will go to 400 with that addition.

Look at the balance in the lineup if Blalock is added to it. Lefties Blalock Thome AJ Pods Righties Uribe Gooch Kong Dye Anderson If I remember correctly we had a hard time hitting righties, especially ones with great sliders. This move plus moves already made can help correct this. Pods Uribe Thome Kong Dye AJ Gooch Blalock Anderson You can get a nice lefty/righty split through the lineup. Gives the sox balance and protection against late inning specialists.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 02:56 PM) If you're willing to give up on Field already, then I'm glad you're not a GM. It's been proven that Blalock is nothing outside of Ameriquest and is a horrible 2nd half player. I'm willing to ride out Crede for a year especially since it took Beltre that long as well to break out. Again, I'm not against trading Crede for an upgrade, but Blalock is not an upgrade. The only problem Nite is that you have only a few oober guys out there that you believe are better than Crede. Chavez and thats pretty much about it. If we could get Hank and reaching for a pie in the sky like Danks for that package you do it.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 03:08 PM) Last I checked, the Twins werent running at full strength last year, but their pitching was still in the top 5. Provided they have a relatively healthy season next year, they could still contend. Tony Batista still has some pop left in his bat, and he always hits well against the Sox. This is better than having Cuddyer at third. Kyyle, Tony Batista of old was a threat. This is a guy who hit .263 in Japan. How does that translate to the pitching of the MLB. Their pitching is great. They havent fixed their offense so far.

God they always find a way to counter our every move.

QUOTE(VAfan @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 01:58 PM) Joe Crede's name has been brought up by, among others, Phil Rogers, who thinks we ought to trade Jon Garland AND Joe Crede for Hank Blalock. Egads: When you look at Blalock's road numbers of a .335 slugging average and a .276 OBP, however, you realize what a stupid move that would be. The dilemma of Joe Crede is that he's a horribly streaky hitter. Here are his splits last year, by month: April 79 12 24 6 0 2 9 5 3 9 0 0 .304 .368 .456 .824 May 84 8 13 2 0 3 9 5 2 17 0 1 .155 .211 .286 .496 June 80 11 22 3 0 6 17 5 2 10 1 0 .275 .333 .538 .871 July 69 10 21 5 0 4 12 4 0 11 0 0 .304 .342 .551 .893 August 58 2 6 1 0 1 1 2 1 10 0 0 .103 .148 .172 .320 September 58 11 22 4 0 6 13 4 0 8 0 0 .379 .419 .759 1.178 In April, June, July, and September, the man is in the top 6 OFFENSIVE 3Bs in baseball. He's better than Eric Chavez, for example, whose OPS was .794. The question is what is going to take for Crede to eliminate his horrible streaks of May and August?? Personally, I think he's already found it in fatherhood and postseason glory. I expect we will see Joe hit 30 or more HRs, with a .500+ slugging percentage and an OPS in the .850+ range next year, and then carry those kind of numbers forward into his early 30s. He'd be a very good #6 hitter behind Konerko and Thome (I'd hit Dye 3rd, but that's another post). And with his defense already better than everyone above him offensively except possibly A-Rod, Joe Crede will be one of the 5 best 3Bs in the game in the next couple of years. The only thing that might derail that is his back. So, please stop with the "trade Joe Crede" ideas. Boras or no, KW should put signing JC to a multi-year deal at the top of his list of remaining offseason things to do. Its Mr No trades. Dont trade Joe Borchard, he may become Babe Ruth. Dont get rid of Timo Perez, he may hit 340 next year. Dont trade any one of our prospects, Scott Ruffcorn could of been a Cy Young winner.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 06:33 AM) Yeah, it looks like the media is going to try and make it look like the Sox are airing it out with their dirty laundry again with Garland after what happened with Maggs and Lee. And you'd think Jon could show a little loyalty from how the Sox actually stuck by him, but with the current market for FA SP's, it looks like he's going to test it. And that looks like it's going to cost his job with us. This is standard operating procedure. Distancing themselves from soon to be ex sox player. Then the break. Thanks Jon for the magical 2005. If you can get us impact pitching prospects, great.

The Deacon Warren Newson

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 10:45 PM) exactly what were the names of the players that won the world series and were in the historical DVD collectors set? those were the men that made you proud to be a WS champ fan. i remember each & every one of them contributing in a VERY BIG WAY along the 11 out of 12 rompage & stompage that included the former WS champs, Vladdy & his bad ass Angels, & then Clemens, Pettite & Oswald! The whole world watched OUR 2005 Chicago White Sox win the WS and they dont deserve to be compared to any other players for what they accomplished. at this moment the only thing we know SSI71 is that the guys who won the WS last year are champions. THEM & ONLY THEM. this has been proven. what we dont know is whether or not the offseason moves will prove to be a back2backer. we are all going to be needing to ban together as fans next year and enjoy the run reminding the rest of the league who the HELL we are! Thank god that they had the forsight to video tape the entire experience so you can play that over and over. Now if next year we faced the exact same teams in the same order maybe the same exact team works. Now instead of facing Clement we face Beckett, maybe even Clemens who might be healthy by then. Now instead of facing Erwin Santana we face Colon who I am sure might be rehabilitated by next year. Maybe we face the As who have made some strides in their offense from last year. You cannot sit back and rest on your laurels. Its very sentimental to get attached to a player. I mean you buy the jersey of your favorite player and they trade him. How rude. Get over it and move on. Or sit back and hit infinite replay on your DVD and drink yourself into a permanent 2005 slumber.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 10:26 PM) no this is not the whining and pouting thread. believe it or not but the entire Chicago White Sox uppers have probably sat down collectively and discussed this EXACT issue in complete detail. the moves they have taken are indicative of the result of the discussions. some of us wish we had been in the room during those discussions thats all. that is the best part about being a fan. being emotional and scared of failure in lieu of winning. for the most part i am just happy to see the team be the best it can be. that is what drew me to being a sox fan from the get go. our guys are always the guys you want to hang with. tough studs that are pretty much clean cut and absolute competitive battlers that never say die. So you want Timo Perez/Harris/Blum as our options off the bench and no macowiak Everett is our DH instead of Thome Konerko is an Angel because he has no protection. Everett is moved to RF and our OF defense is slower. Gload is the first baseman Marte is still in the pen. El Duque is pitching in the rotation. 2 or more DL spots for him Garland and the Count are in the last year of their contract. So if we lose both, Felix Diaz and Arnie Munoz are in the rotation the following year. Okay stop. I like the part where KW made changes, made the offense better, protected the core of the team which is the pitching for the next few years, and did this while getting rid of people that could be replaced.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 10:17 PM) you are assuming that KW has made this team A LOT better. PITCHING PITCHING PITCHING + STRONG UP THE MIDDLE + TIMELY HITS i would say were bigger contributions to the WS run of 11 out of 12 than what you claim....of luck, fate, & overcoming shortcomings? i think that the only way OUR team really tails off is if OUR core pitching staff gets hit with injury, self complacency, greed or is traded away. Shockingly I would rather have Jim Thome up there with men on than Carl Everett who at the end of the season looked like he was swinging a 90 ounce bat. Remember Carl who had such a bad slump that at the very end of the season they moved Dye into the 3 hole because they didnt have any production out of it for a month. This is an offense that was medicore to bad for most of the year. It clicked very nicely in the playoffs. The stars aligned and the hitting matched the pitching. But I remember August through September when our pitching was good and our hitting blew. Do we really want to gamble with hoping that the stars align again and we squeak out all those 1 run games. I would rather have it where our pitching is great and our offense rocks. I like it when Buerhle throws a 4 hit game where we win 5-1 instead of the 2-1 hope and pray game.

QUOTE(TLAK @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 08:28 PM) He has trash canned the best hitter I ever saw in Frank Thomas and traded the man threw the best single ½ inning a baseball I have ever seen in my life, in Orlando Hernandez. He disposed of the epitome of the World Championship team in Aaron Rowand, a guy we watched grow and regress in Marte and a guy who took one for the team in April that haunted his entire season in Vizcaino. He discarded Carl Everett who carried the offense at times. He dismissed the man who hit a game winner in the first World Series the team went to in 46 years. He is bringing in some big names to replace them but I miss my guys. I waited all my 53 years for a championship and now 6 of the 25 heroes from the playoff roster plus Frank – a quarter of them – are gone and we haven’t even gotten to spring training yet. The magic of 2005, of our guys, a team that nobody else respected but knew in its heart it could do it, a team that got great plays from the most unlikely sources is gone. The warmth I felt for the team going against all probabilities is being replaced fantasy baseball-like expected run production ratios. When Williams starts his BS about the Sox being a family all the players need to do is look how Frank, Aaron, Orlando, Damaso, Luis, Geoff and Carl were all s*** canned within 2 months of winning the ring for them -great family. When is Kenny going to stop killing the best thing that ever happened to the White Sox for a half century? Fixed the color for you. Carl is the same guy who was removed from hitting third and we put Dye in to hit third because we were desperate. Luis was a gas can. Geoff had a great homer in one game and played solid defense. Outside of that one game he couldnt hit. Damaso walked the bases loaded nearly blowing the game in Boston, he quit on the team during the end of the pennant race and lied about his injury. El Duque is 40, was injuried a few times, had a magical inning in the playoffs. Before his magical inning just about everyone was livid that Bmac was not on the playoff roster. Rowand is nice and all, but we have lots of OFs lets deal from a position of strength. Frank may or may not be healthy and is not the left handed power hitter we were looking for. But besides that you hit it on the spot.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:53 AM) Where would he play.. ? You beat me to that one. With Thome as the DH, I cannot see KGJ running around in the OF with his injury issues.