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QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) Blum's Bat>>>>>>>Crede's Bat That should say something for Crede and his future with the team after this season.

Blum has been hitting a lot more than Crede. Just saying. Maybe the defense is lacking a bit, but the stick has been better.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 03:28 PM) Heat=long balls. We need to keep the ball down and keep them at singles here guys. There is a reason that they are good at home, they are a slugging team. Garland is a sinkerball pitcher. His whole mission in life is to get sink on the ball and let them hit the ball on the ground.

Well remember Garland in his last start down here, Cruizing right along and then he got destroyed. Keep the ball down.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 02:37 PM) I totally agree. I don't know why Ozzie keeps doing this ...............I think it's definitely time for a lineup shakeup. Let's go back to the one we used earlier in the year, it worked better than this current piece of s*** lineup has......Pods, Iguchi, Rowand, PK, Everett, Dye, AJ, Uribe, Blum.... Arow batting either 2nd or 3rd is a good thing. It would get him more fastballs and allow him to shine. Arow has had no protection this year at all. So they no longer pitch to him and he is not patient enough to lay off pitches. Those two things add up to more strikeouts and lower OBP.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 02:31 PM) why do we keep batting AJ in a power spot. The guy has already surpassed his career high in homers. Please put Dye up there in a position to drive in some runs. Brian-lets call on the power of Christina's taught behind to bring us a vicotry today. ozzie loves to alternate lefties and righties as much as possible for later in the game matchups.

He was saying on Saturday that we were close to a deal again for Griffey, now we wont have any deals at all. They have looked at the options available and will go into the final battle for the division with no upgrades. Hopefully our guys learn how to hit in the next month.

QUOTE(DePloderer @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 01:55 PM) Thanks fellas. It starts at 10:05 BST Dep. Cheers,

Our pitching is not the problem. I know everyone loves the declining buerhle stuff, and how this guy is not as good and that guy. Our pitching staff is fine. Buerhle and Garland are guys who dont strike out a lot of guys. They require good defense behind them to be succesful. There are days where they will catch too much of the plate and get hit hard. Garcia and Conteras have the stuff to completely and utterly shut a team down. Outside of Garcia's mental lapses in the first inning and his lack of poise against bad teams, he can shut teams down. El Duque is more like Buerhle and Garland. What this all means is that our offense needs to pick it up. We have lived and died this month on the pitching kicking ass and taking names and hoping to scratch a few runs across the board. In the playoffs our pitching will face some potent offenses. Our pitching is great, but cannot be expected to completely shut down each and every teami n the playoffs. They will give up some runs. Maybe some of these guys get real hot and do shut the other team down. We still need our guys to hit. We need to score runs. Outside of Oakland and the Angels the other pitching staffs should be hittable. But that has been our problem, medicore pitching has shut this team down. With our pitching staff if we were hitting medicore, we would have no problems and would march through the playoffs. But when you can get shut down by a medicore pitcher and waste a great effort by one of our starters it will continue to cause us issues. It would be nice if one of our vets on offense would stand up and call out their own and take a better approach and start to jump start this offense. We have guys who have hit before in the majors, we have guys who can hit for a while. Its time to stand up and just win this damn thing. Lets not string this along. Win the division, rest your players and get ready for the playoffs.

Bellhorn possibly to the Yanks

The pitching we will be facing is a joke and our hitters should be able to hit today. If the struggle to score runs in both games, then its time to start to worry. Garland has to be a stopper today. And BMAC needs to get ahead of the hitters. GO SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe Garland wants to also take advantage of the shadows also. I have been to ameriquest field only once and that was at night, so I dont know how shadows play on that field late in a game.

How many times did the mound at the cell get measured this year, after or before a game. How many times have we heard the rumors of the twins turning on the super air conditioning. Rumors are abound in baseball of cheating, however deciding to go public with this in game one of a series is probably not a good thing. Showalter hates Ozzie and will do everything in his power not only to beat us in this series, but to humiliate us also. This has just become bulletin board material.

Tell me that they couldnt change the signs per inning, maybe change the indicator or the sequence. I dont mind that Buerhle spoke his mind, but AJ and our coaching staff should be able to adapt to sign stealing. And who are we to talk about stealing signs. We for many a year employed one of the best sign stealers in baseball as a bench coach. Lets get real.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:25 PM) In the only stat that matters, how many runs a pitcher gives up over a comparable number of innings, which is the only thing he can control, Mark beats out Santana this year. I'm not sure how much more clear that can get. But Mark has given up 63 ER in 189.2 innings. Santana has given up 66 ER in 188 innings. So those 3 ERs really make a huge difference. This of course was up until tonights start.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:22 PM) That wasn't your point. You said Santana shut poeple down more this year. I showed you he didn't. No actually you are saying that Mark B is a better pitcher over this year. Then you discounted Johan because he is a very miniscule amount behind with better numbers in ever other category.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:16 PM) Shutting down? Buehrle has 11 starts giving up one run or less. Santana has 9 of a similar nature. Next? If Ryan offered Santana for Mark Buerhle straight up. KW would yell DEAL before Ryan got Santa out of his mouth.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:14 PM) And that's exactly my point. The fact that you'd rather take a pitcher who gives up more runs is just incredible to me. I can't put it any other way. What that says is that the other guy's team scores more runs for him. I'd rather have that other guys offense, but I sure as hell don't want him over a guy with a 3.07 ERA. If Mark was playing MVP he would trade Johan to his team and play as him. LOL

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:07 PM) LOL. Yah, lets split up the halves, like that means anything. No reason in the year as a whole when looking a thte best pitcher. There is no argument about who has played better in the second half. I don't care about that. Buerhle has been better overall though. The most important stat for a pitcher is how many runs he gives up. Not how he does it, and Mark has been better in that this year. Furthermore, who cares about his Cy Young last year. What the hell does that have anything to do with who has been the better pitcher this year. I will make you a friendly bet and say that Johan has better numbers than Mark by the end of this year. And that is over the entire year. I like Mark, but lets be honest. You discount a pitcher that people fear to face, that can shut an offense down. Mark is a great pitcher, but he doesnt shut teams down.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:54 PM) How has he proven anything. IN the only stat that matters, Burly has been better. Johan Santana 13-6 with a 3.13 ERA and a 1.00WHIP. He has 195ks and 36bbs overall. In the second half Santana is 6-1 with a 1.54 ERA a .90WHIP. He has 52ks and 10BBs. vs. Mark Buerhle 14-6 with a 2.99 ERA(before this start) and a 1.16WHIP, he has 115ks and 31bbs. In the second half he is 4-3 with a 4.02ERA with a 1.29 WHIP and a 30ks and 10BBs. I can see how Burly has been better, and Johan hasnt proven a thing , those damn Cy Youngs fall off trees like crazy

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:52 PM) Um. Get back to me when he has an better ERA. Please raise your hand if you would take Buerhle over Johan, or by that mark any of our pitchers over Johan.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:48 PM) Only on this board do people get after the best pitcher in the league. It's incredible. Johan Santana is the best pitcher in the league.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:46 PM) 2 straight pathetic games. Thank god we wont go after Todd Walker, he just hits like crazy but is bad in the field.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:31 PM) Well the offense played much better when Podsednik was not hurt. That was there point. We hit in the 250s with pod in April and May. There was this HOF hitting guy who came in around June and July. That was when we hit 270 as a team. Then when he gets hurt, we hit in the 220s. But if you think it was Pods who struck fear and got all those other hitters their good fastballs to hit instead of the HOFer that we havent replaced, to each their own.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:25 PM) How the hell is this Buerhle's fault? Maybe if we got a f***ing rally we would have a shot. Let's see over the weekend we got 5, 4 and 2 runs in Minnesota we got 0 6 (yipee) and 2 runs. Prior to this we lost 7 in a row. The pressure on our staff is incredible as th likes of every hitter in this lineup underachieves. Pierzynski has 47 RBI's??? That is less than Uribe with 8 more home runs. Podsednik is a nice player but he isn't goign to turn this around. Rowand, well he has a nice outing in center at Yankee stadium. We are not the shoe in to the playoffs we think we are. We have not come back in a game in weeks (more than arun down). This was how we were a winning team. THIS IS NoOBUERHLE's FAULT. We are getting schooled by a s***ty pitcher YET AGAIN. Our pitching has been phenominal. We cant expect the staff to toss up zeros everytime they go up there. Sometimes they have a bad start, it happens. But our offense cannot compensate for that.