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Q 5 innings 2 hits 0 R 6 K 1BB

QUOTE (Joxer_Daly @ Jul 4, 2013 -> 12:22 PM) I'm ok, it was the time difference. The other two need to get their act together, though. LOL the game isn't in April . I didn't plan on starting the thread . I wanted to retire this year a perfect 2-0 but hoping to make it 3-0 then ditch my duties as game thread starter after a win again .

Rios leadoff single. Gets picked off but beats throw to 2nd. Viciedo K overanxious. Dunn K, Rios to 3rd on the ball getting away from O's catcher. Kepp grounds out. No score after 4. Where's the fireworks ?

Q K's Jones and Davis and Hardy . #dealing !

Last 20 games Alexei .333

Last 20 games Alexei .333 .

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Jul 4, 2013 -> 11:54 AM) Isn't it time for Beckham to be moved up in the order? He's really swinging the bat well, and seems to be figuring it out this year. I think so but the De Aza Alexei combo has done well lately. Our lack of power could use De Aza in the middle of the order against righties. Alexei could lead off and Beckham 2nd.

Q k's 2 in 3rd. Markakis hit. Machado force out at 2nd.

Keppy walks 1st and 2nd 1 out. Wells hang wiff'em to left. Beckham hang wiff'em to the track in right that Markakis runs down. No score after 2.

Dunn a hit against a lefty. Stone calls it an infield hit though Roberts ranged to his right in shallow right center field.

Need a MOd to merge this mess .

QUOTE (Joxer_Daly @ Jul 4, 2013 -> 11:26 AM) Jesus, you're all drunk already! Even you, Knuckles. And, you're in work, FFS!!! I'm # 1

QUOTE (Joxer_Daly @ Jul 4, 2013 -> 11:24 AM) Ah feck. Better than nothing, I suppose. That's what I usually do for the games as they're generally on too late for me to watch live - watch them the morning after in work. Today is great, as it's one of the rare times in a week when I get to come home and stick on the game at a reasonable hour. Excuse Me I started the game thread 4 minutes before you Joxer . Are you all blind

Happy Independence Day everyone !! Here's hoping the Sox provide some fireworks and hit a few bombs.

If this doesn't belong in Trade Winds feel free to move it. Under the KW regime the Sox didn't trade many veterans and never really had to eat any salary. It's obvious the Sox are going to looking for young inexpensive talent and in order to get that talent Hahn may have to bite the bullet and pay a part of the remaining contracts of our high priced vets. Salary dumping is all well and good but you can't remake a team through free agency alone since those guys are the very definition of veteran over priced talent. I know the contracts of Rios and Peavy are reasonable and Dunn's is not based on his limited tool set. I think it's imperative ,when faced with the reality of eating salary ,Hahn does not hesitate if it makes the difference in getting the types of players he wants.

Nice hanger MT.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 06:27 PM) Flowers gets a hit and still sets us up for failure. Actually just goes down as an FC , no hit but I'm sure you know this.

Bacon sizzlin.

We watch the games and want the Sox to win but we also want a high draft pick. Can't have both. # the struggle is real

Santiago at 118 pitches and still out there.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 05:51 PM) 5 straight multi-K games for Flowers Sox have lost quite a bit of power this year. No AJP , Beckham down, Alexei down , Viciedo down and Konerko down. Gillaspie probably ends up less than Youk . So way less runs via the HR, and the defense are the biggest contributor towards the down fall.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 05:07 PM) Phegley with his 15th homer of the year. You have to wonder if they go ahead and make the change after this month and give Phegley a shot to show what he can do. I think we need a poll about will the Sox promote Phegley before or after he reaches Super 2 status or w/e it's called and w/e that date is. Gimenez serves no purpose other than another lefty and I can't remember if he's been used as a pinch hitter at all but I highly doubt it since I'd wager the SOx are near the bottom in number of pinch hitters used in the AL.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 02:39 PM) I think this injury will irreparably harm his trade value. How much is debatable, but a pitcher just coming off an arm injury is always a big risk. We didn't do this for s***s and giggles, he clearly has something going on or they wouldn't have told the world that he's having a problem right before he gets traded. Step away from the ledge. Yes Crain is the only piece the Sox actually have to move but I'm telling you he will be ready to rock n' roll once he comes back. Might be a bit of a dead arm thing. He's been throwing a lot of curves. Though I am one of the first to say I think the Sox can be competitive as soon as next year, realistically most are looking toward 2015. Hahn maybe sell off lesser pieces first and wait til closer to the deadline to deal the big boys . He might just price Peavy and Rios out of the market this year if he's got an eye on next year to compete.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 3, 2013 -> 02:02 PM) Anyone think this is the White Sox shutting him down in order to keep him from being injured until they can trade him? Or maybe he's already traded ,so scan the minor and major league rosters to see who else is being put on the DL while they work out the rest of the deal.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 2, 2013 -> 11:55 PM) I'm telling you, Crain is not going to bring much at all. He's in his last year of a contract and yes, he does get hurt, and he's aging. What is everybody realistically expecting? I'd say one average prospect and cash. Kudos to Dunn for that month just completed. He does deserve credit. But any team trading for him also is getting Mr. Whiff. Dunn suddenly is not going to be great.A team should not risk much for him. Just dumping some of that salary would help. Something for Crain is better than nothing considering the Sox would be getting offers from quite a few teams . A best offer is better than no offers.