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Thanks for that. Always nice to know the man behind the player especially when he succeeds while overcoming obstacles. He is a credit to Cuba and to the will and perserverance of the human spirit.

Hell I wish OG would move Dye to the 3 spot. He's the closest thing we have to what you want in that position , speed, power, average. Since Aaron is the best on the team at hitting with RISP with 2 outs move him to 5th, that way in the first inning he could be up there with 2 men on and 2 outs. We were playing our best ball jumping out to early leads.

Just get in the playoffs. Anything can happen there. Pods will start stealing again, pitchers will shut guys down and the D will be great and well, Ozzie will be Ozzie.

Are the Sox in the playoffs yet??? Cross that bridge when we get to it.

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) Some kind of obscure "School of Rock" reference? Good one . Poor dyslexic kid meant Blackjack McDowell.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 24, 2005 -> 08:37 AM) Who benefits from Carl STFUing? Garcia? Pods? Joey Cora? Ozzie? Nancy Faust? These are adults. 30,000 screaming fans don't faze them, but Carl unhappy and talking will totally f*** up this team. If this team is that fragile, they are soooo screwed. Tex, don't think those disagreeing with you necessarily want Carl to STFU totally. The fact of the matter is he took it to the press first which isnt part of the White Sox organization. If Carl wants to gripe thats his right but gripe to the man making the lineup. Sit down and talk face to face . How hard can that be ?

What goes around ,comes around.

I don't think anyone think's we can go 6-4 down the stretch. But I'm with ya buddy. Just hated seeing your thread looking so lonely.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 11:20 AM) That's pretty interesting. I also wouldn't think 4.80 to 4.333 would cost us that many games in terms of our record. That's an average of us scoring about one less run every two games. I think back to the smartball thing and that's certainly valid. With Podsednik hamstrung, we are no longer scoring early nor often. That and I feel like our starting pitching is gassed and our bullpen is not up to the task. Besides games against Oakland, how many times did we get blown out in the 1st half of the season? Look at it this way we're scoring almost 1/2 a run less post all star break. Imagine we had increased that same 1/2 run. It's a huge difference especially when you play as many close games as we do. The difference between pre and post all star game Sox is that we can't get that extra run we need to win the close games anymore. Some blame the pitching but we won because the pitching was dominant in the first half. Now that it's come back down to earth people blame the collapse on that. It's unrealistic to expect the staff to be dominant all year especially with no history of being dominant from guys like Garland and Hermanson. But basically it's a teamwide collapse. Pitching , hitting, fielding , baserunning all worse. Everything Ozzie does now backfires in his face. The hitting has pretty much sucked all year. Now that we can't manufacture runs or get the clutch hit anymore we're spiraling down like we're caught in a whirlpool.

QUOTE(Allsox @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 11:28 AM) What's the point of getting on base if you can't steal AND you're the leadoff man?!? It's like having Konerko leading off with a single and you're stuck with him at first since he can't steal a base.... UMMM maybe because getting on base is better then making an out ??

Never did i ever imagine to see that Pebbles and Bam Bam song in Soxtalk. Sure made me laugh.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 11:08 AM) I think 20 is pushing the envolpe a little, however, you did say in the last 3 games, so taking that sample size, yes, he could win 20 if he pitched like that all season. I think it just does to show you other teams than the White Sox have a hard time agaisnt pitchers that they are seeing for the 1st time. I would like see how Brandon would far against Boston and Texas the 3rd and 4th time out against them. Bmac has seen Texas 3 times IIRC. This is just more ammo for the Ozzie haters. Why didn't he put BMAC in the starting rotation after his gems against Boston and Texas ? How many starts after that did El Duque screw up ?

The Sox were playing great with Frank around . He didn't have anything to do with the collapse and I truly believe had he stayed healthy we would not be in the predicament we are in now.

I love the Sox but a song by Paul Simon popped into my head tonight. " Slip sliding away, slip sliding away, you know the nearer your destination the more you're slip sliding away."

I know deep deep down in my heart the Rally Crede had nothing to do with anything but the timing was impeccable.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 09:06 PM) Can't wait til we get that picture of AJ planting on Aaron Boone's back. That was classic.

Maybe Jeff Brantley is in charge .

HOly s*** !!! DANGGG well I'll be a monkey's uncle. I'm a follower for the 1st time in my life. Anything for some wins. CREDE CREDE CREDE CREDE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE(Clarkdog @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 09:20 AM) I have been a Sox fan for 30 years (I couldn't actually believe it when I did the math). Here is my take of the White Sox in the 30 years I've know them. This organization has never had the mindset of a winner. Ever. It is run like a business first, as it should - but winning has never been factored into the business equation and it should - and for successful teams it does. The byproduct of that is that no one in this organization really knows anything about winning. Winners focus on winning. This organization tends to lose that focus at critical times. Winners don't start a fire sale when the team is 3.5 out in July. You should be a buyer, and fill the holes for a pennant push. Winners don't encite a labor action when thier team is steaming toward the postseason. You figure out a way to come to an agreement. Bill Melton said something a few days ago that got me thinking. He said that in all his years of watching the Sox (beginning in his playing days) he has only seen one team deliver a consistent winning effort across an entire season - that was 1993. That says something about an organization and what it really knows about winning. Sure the White Sox have had spotty success in my 30 years - 1983, 1993, 2000, and this season. But there has been more consistency in the Sox being mediocre, then there has in them being a winner. The Sox have never had a period where they really considered a consistent winning organization - like the Braves, the Indians of the late 90's, the A's of the early part of this decade. Putting together a string like that develops the knowledge of what a winning baseball organization is. The Sox have always been also-rans. Good enough to finish near or above .500 but never good enough to capture the prize consistently. If the Sox have a curse - that is it. I appreciate Kenny Williams' fire and passion, and Ozzie Guillen's energy and enthusiam. But if this season goes by the wayside and the Sox fail to make the playoffs (which I don't think is possible) then you really need to look squarely at the two of them and question what they really know about running and managing a consistent winning baseball team. Anyone can run and manage a losing team. But it takes skill to win over the long haul. Look at the Braves John Shurholtz and Bobby Cox - those guys know what it takes and how to win. Does this organization really get it? Time will tell. But if what is past is prologue - then I'm betting against it. But such is the lot of a Chicago White Sox fan. Quite possibly the post of the year unfortunately. Good job.

I'm in but going to chat makes me more ill than losing. 9 out of 10 things said are negative. Even when we have a lead , it's "we're gonna blow it." If you don't join the negative banter you're an outcast.

Yea what they all said.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 05:24 PM) I think we will do to the indians what the 99 braves did to the mets that year. What happened was the Braves had a decent sized lead in August (i think it got up to 6 games at the most) and the Mets came back and were actually in first a couple of times. A big September series rolled around at Turner Field with the Braves just a half a game up over the surging mets. Well the Braves swept the Mets in 3 games and pretty much ended the division race. Chipper Jones pretty much won the MVP because of that series alone. He had something like 5 HR's in that series. That's exactly what i think will happen in the Sox-Indians Series. When did we get Chipper Jones ?

This is what baseball or any sport is all about. May the best team win and we all know its the White Sox !!!

QUOTE(rangercal @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 01:36 PM) Funny, all the posters with choking avis have not posted in the game winning thread yet. I noticed that too.

Oh yes , Score 4 runs in 3 games and win 2 of them. Great pitching all the way around. Bring it on Cleveland , let's rock !