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Also .950 OPS in AA and over 1.000 in AAA last year. Over 200 AB's in each level. Very few around here were clamoring for Daulton Varsho either after his 2021 season which was a decent year. Defense gave him a lot of his WAR when he was only 106 wRC+ but had a 4.6 fWar.

He's 25 , 26 in May. I mean really dude if you have a baseball argument for why he stinks give it. Just because you said so ?

Oh lol you want to go back to that now? . They called Nick Williams up and he's just supposed to sit on the bench 100% of the time Right ? Take up space do nothing while Vaughn was floundering like a fish out of water. I never said play him all season. It doesn't hurt to a play guy you have already in the dugout super early in the season when your other options suck so Williams sucked too big deal . Of course as usual you left out the details They did give him a small shot and he failed . You can laugh all you want but they did exactly as I suggested. Imagine that. Vaughn has put up a -.7 WAR in 2 seasons playing the OF. My suggestion was just to let Vaughn clear his headand try something different and you want to crucify me for that. As usual your baseball mind is a sieve. Keep throwing out s%*# without context . Yermin probably would've never got a chance to help either under your management.

Those bonuses are paid by the team but the league reimburses them . Way to get that bonus pool money !

Had Varsho on my radar last year off season. I know I made at least one post about it. Nice to see he had such a good year

Well a few of the better bums were DFA's who might have required a little more than a minor league contract. It just goes to show that better depth pieces were not a priority or they were content to sign the dregs because an extra $1-2M would kill them. These things add up on the margins, better defenders, more options, more speed, more power. These better bums were snatched up early.

Last year was not one of tim's best defensively but he also didnt play that many games. ANd his ratings were pretty close to the same as swanson except the last 2 years.

I took liberty's with the definition. A rare instance where we got a young player for nothing and he basically became very good.

LOL and you wonder why I want Outman ? Question is if the Dodgers are willing who is he worth. Sosa maybe ?

They got Quintana for a song and he became very good. Many here refused to believe he would continue to be good . You kept hearing the phrase "smoke and mirrors" about Q.

While Swanson had the 2 best years of his career defensively in 21 and 22 , Tim is not and has never been a below average defender. He may not be the best fundamentally but his range has always made him a plus defender. You can see it quite clearly on his fangraphs page all the way to the right in the dashboard stats where it has offensive and defensive ratings and then total fWar.

Oh I was indicting it since it was reported they were "negotiating" with him. He's a nothing OF, not fast, no power, no upside, doesn't get good jumps, shouldn't play CF at all. He does have a good arm. He's fine for playing all year in AAA but the minute he see's 26 time he's a liability.

Just a friendly who's right and who's wrong bet? I'll take that. Not good enough defensively to be a 4th OF but that might be your point.

And I'm certainly not saying he will be a superstar. He K's a lot but also has a good feel for the strike zone and will take walks I'd be happy with 2 fWar apiece from Colas and Outman and even if its less than that we'll still get good defense that will include a decent amount of OF assists, something that the OF last year was incapable of doing . But there's also a shot (not sure how much ,20-25% maybe, that they will do even better offensively. The OF defense was just disgustingly bad last year and creating better OF defense should be a BIG goal this year. It would make our pitchers look a lot better. Nothing pisses pitchers off more than shoddy defense.

I have mentioned Roberts defense in 2022 and his injury that more than likely caused it but there was also his dizzy spells. No idea how long that was actually going on which could have further impaired his defense. I also specifically mentioned that he may be better off in LF. But I haven't ruled out that his defense can be much better than last year in CF if surrounded by much better defenders. This is why I have continuously brought up James Outman who is 60 across the board as a defender according to scouting reports (run,arm, field) is LH and destroyed AA and AAA pitching last year. I know others would prefer someone more established but I truly believe he can give you just as much as Bellinger would without the price tag. Might have to wait to see how the Dodgers address their own OF woes but if he's made available he's worth an inquiry. I think he's under ranked because he was a 7th rd pick , 13th among Dodgers prospects and doesn't have much value in trade simulators all due to being a late bloomer. The Dodgers have developed him much like Will Smith who also credits how the Dodgers told him he had to hit for more power to play in the big leagues and gave him a leg kick. They have worked with Outman to take a very athletic guy who didn't have much of a college career and reworked his swing with tremendous results. He is solidly built, almost Trout like, 6'3" 215.

They will have a parade of office personnel around the ballpark so Hahn can say I promised you a parade , here it is !

ARe you throwing their stats in a blender ? I'm confused. ABreu won MVP in 2020, Keuchels good year was 2020. Grandals was 2021 since not enough time in 202 for 4-5 WAR Rodon was 2021 . Cease has stepped up to replace the 2021 Rodon year. Kopech or Clevinger or both can replace anything Cease did before he became really good. Lynn can be better than he was in 2022. Giolito can replicate however good he was . Moncada can be a 4 WAR Moncada that he was in 2021. Eloy has never had a 3 WAR year . You don't think that's possible at DH ? Luis Robert had a 3.3 WAR in 68 games in 2021. You don't think he can have 5 or 6 playing a full season ?

That was my point. Seems pretty impossible to think career or even just very good years out of 10 or 11 key guys on the Sox would result in a below .500 team.

But you also said his 1st base defense was "poor to bad" based on misusing defensive metrics because of the sample size. I'm not saying he's good or bad . I'm saying we just don't have enough data yet to know . But he's our 1st baseman so we'll find out.

SO how did they manage to have good years in 2020 and 2021 . Who are key contributors to those teams that we don't have now. Use the same metric their zips projections.

This is correct . 290 innings @1st base is the equivalent of 32 9 inning games and his sample is spread out over 2 years. This is misuse of defensive metrics . The worst thing to do when judging defense is use small samples spread out over time. You need a large sample size of continuous play to make an accurate statement and even 1 year may not be enough. It's the same mistake others here made when judging his OF defense after his 1st year and saying it was adequate. It may have been adequate in that sample but a larger sample would tell the true story and we found that out last year. He never had the speed or instincts to play OF permanently which is what I always told those people.

We're worse off than last year IF you think Robert, Eloy, Lynn,Moncada, Grandal ,Giolito, Kopech, Anderson, Vaughn, Bummer, Kelly all are injured as much or as bad as they were last year. Having Abreu when everyone else is terrible or hurt under a bad manager led to a .500 team. A new manager, health and guys playing up to their capabilities is what will help the team. Yes it sucks when you lose your best player and a model citizen but he wasn't supposed to be our best player in 2022. It was supposed to be Eloy, Robert or Moncada or all 3 of them. They drafted Vaughn to eventually replace Abreu or because he was the best player available and losing Abreu is just a consequence of that.

I honestly think Hahn got a pitcher because they needed one and that's all he's allowed to do because JR said no to much else . So I'm not upset because of HAHN's lack of participation in FA, I'm upset that he's not allowed to by JR. That would be my rationale if I had participated in that poll to be in the minority of voters. Hahn's just a puppet being controlled by the puppeteer . I can't be upset with an inanimate object.

Would heavens make it right ? Multiverse of Heavens ?

I said this too. But I was merely speculating like a frustrated fan.