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What's going to actually happen is Lynn gets traded to another team then we're going to hear "That's all it took ? We could've beaten that !"

I'd be happy being in a World World Series in 20 and/ or 21 and still having a good shot at more. You just said Kopech alone for Lynn would be fine didnt you ? So apparently you think that wouldn't hurt the future much.

Bauer will make more next year than the remaining year plus on Lynn's contract and Lynn is pitching better than Bauer now and did last year too. If money is the bottom line with Jerry do you think he would rather use prospects as capital or cash ? Dont blame me if the Sox won't pay for a top pitcher in the off season or end up trading prospects any way. Then I get to listen to " If we were going to trade a prospect or 2 why didnt we go for it last year for Lynn?"

Getting ready ? They are ready. I'm not shortening it. You are, by thinking they're not ready this year.

And yet most here are afraid to go for it.

Cool and that's without Lynn and Dyson . I like it.

I just think we are a lot better than people realize right now. Good offense, good defense . SP just needs a boost and Lynn is someone Jerry just might pay for.

I can easily argue that because we are practically in the playoffs already. Are we already 1/2 way through any other season with odds of making the playoffs above 95% ? Nope . I take what's right in front of my nose. I dont assume we will have 95 % chance every year because I dont assume we will be better next year. That hasn't worked out very well. Saying our odds are 2-6 % in a vacuum is extremely misleading as Tom Pickle pointed out. What are every other teams odds ? Dodgers might be the only one above 10 % I would guess.

Sorry again I am confused . Why only 10% this year. Wouldn't just Lynn give us 3 Cy Young candidates this year ? What else need help? NOT the offense . The defense was already 1st in DRS and now has Dyson to help late inning defense and running. Bullpen is young and losing Bummer hurt but they are performing well and maybe Bummer can return for the playoffs. So late inning LH relief is a concern. We are a pretty good team now. Lynn puts us among the elite teams increasing our odds to 50/50 which is pretty much what you want considering the vagaries of playoffs. Using the term "all in" is not what is happening here. It's not taking a fleeting shot at one year of glory at the expense of the future. Every year the window is open ths Sox are going to face these tough decisions.

I approve of this move, now go get Lynn.

That was the very 1st thought I had unfortunately. Are you asking or is this fact ? I just started reading the thread so I guess I will find out soon.

Low odds ? We are going to the playoffs . You cant guarantee that for any other year but this year. You're a betting man . The odds say the Sox have a 95+ % chance to be in the playoffs this year. Tell me what do you think the odds are for making the playoffs each yr for the next 5 years ? Try to keep in mind that that Sox with Reinsdorf have never been in the playoffs in back to back years. Nothing is a given except the odds are incredibly high this year.

Some of you need a reality check .Madrigal isnt untouchable. Neither is Kopech his career and his life have major problems. The Sox are in a position to be contenders for years to come with or without Kopech or Madrigal. Holy overvaluing prospects Batman ! The goal is to win The freaking world series not win the prospect derby. Sox have won 1 WS in 100 yrs. 1 more in the next 5 yrs would be nice. I'd like to start going for it this year .

Oh but I like him both silly and serious it just makes it harder to gauge when he flip flops between them on the same topic.

Ok good so we will make the playoffs and you agree we can win the World Series this year and next year. What's the old saying ? Don't put off till tomorrow what you can do today. Hypothetically if just one player Kopech for Lynn you dont do it ? You give up on 20 and maybe 21 but want to take your best shots in 22-25 without losing a single prospect in a trade? So 20 through 25 is the window 6 years but 2 of those years you decide we can win the World Series but do nothing to help them win it because 1 good piece isnt good enough to help them win the world series when you also said they are already good enough to win the world series. It's very confusing what you said.

Great who would you part with and for who ?

Wait seriously ? Our odds to make the playoffs are up to 95%+. I wish you would not jump back and forth between posting smartly on a topic then going back into poop mode.

Would you agree we will make the playoffs this year ?

No no and no but Uncle Jerry decides.

Too bad Covid is around and the Tatis deal happened. Both are making Sox fans cling to prospects like newborns toa tete. If just Kopech gets you Lynn you do it. You wait and wait for the rebuild to be finshed to get it the playoffs to have team that can reach and win the World Series. What is Kopech going to contribute to the Sox this year and next ? Nothing . Innings limit next year. Two years of rust to shake off. Arm surgery. Trouble in his marriage. Opted out. Get the picture ? Things are unraveling for him. Yea he can still be good but when ? I thought once the window opened and we were one piece away and one cheap piece like Lynn you take your shot. HE'S not James Shields. These are the same tough decisions the Cubs and Astros had to make. Both teams lost quality prospects in trades but won a World Series. There's almost no way to avoid that. We are one good starter short . You all tell me how were going to get one who is a 1 or 2 right now . If you prefer to wait for Cease, Lopez, Dunning we give up a shot at a ring this year and maybe next year too. Rebuild is over and as long there is baseball being played I'd like to think there will be a world series played. Sucks to have our window open now but its wide open waiting to see if we have the guts to do what every team does that truly wants to be World Champs.

Only one way to see if they accept it. Chicago White Sox says they accept it in a heartbeat. You say you doubt it.All depends on the other offers .

Kopechs future is suspect at this point and very likely not to make much impact until 2022 if even then. We dont even know if baseball is still his top priority. Trade him before he becomes a social worker or runs off to be with a guru. Unfair I know. But when everyone else was crapping on him for opting out I said it could be smartest decision he could make. Not prioritizing baseball in itself isnt a bad thing but it is to a team and fans expecting big things from him.

But could be means or he could not be. Just what are you doing to improve our chances for 20 and 21? Waiting ?

Good done deal then . 2 shots at a world series giving up one guy who hasn't done anything in 2 years and definitely wont contribute this year and isnt likely to contribute much next year either.

Sanchez won a gold glove, how is that helping him ? I love how he's already winning multiple gold gloves . Spin the potential into gold if you want and spin Lynn as some old guy who will make 34 uneventful starts instead of a likely Cy Young candidate this year and a huge boost to our weakest link