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If you had read the previous posts you will see i originally said it was 110 and only said 100 because Brian Anderson in his post reduced it to 100 and I didn't correct him.

Sure go ahead make light of everything, compare 85-90 to 110, Say you don't care about a feud with Mattingly while Dave Roberts also benched him for making the last out of a game trying to steal 2nd base and didn't slide and then said it was because he felt a tweak in his hammy. Willfully be ignorant of on and off field brawling, disobedience to coaches, faking injuries ,making excuses ,selfish behavior, laziness. The list of transgressions goes on and on. Saying that the Dodgers won with him being a cancer is meaningless. It's a team game and he didn't spread the cancer to his team mates. Cancer is not contagious.

Why do you leave out the part that his mom and 2 other passengers were in the car. Yea everyone has driven 100 per hour in their youth but how many did it with their mom and others in the car ? I can see what camp you are in too and you won't change your mind. I at least entertained the thought that he has matured somewhat while all you focus on is being entertained, Baseball like any job requires cooperation ,dedication and hard work for continual high paying employment. Unlike many other jobs you can carry a certain amount of baggage and still make millions . When the baggage outweighs the talent your job opportunities lessen. This is the dilemma for any team who wants to hire him . Sweeping past transgressions under the rug with thoughts of being entertained and his recent stats is just irresponsible to the team.

I really don't want to get into this. Any tiny bit of research on the guy reveals a lot of negatives surrounding him throughout his career. A bar brawl. ignoring coaches, ignoring defensive positioning, ripping up the defensive positioning card on the field, admitting he didn't work hard because he already had a contract. alienating team mates,running wild ignoring coaches on the bases, overthrowing cutoff men to show off his arm, arrested for driving110 MPH with his mother and 2 other passengers in the car, habitual tardiness, scuffles with team mates, Don Mattingly, his ex manager ,won't even talk about Puig. Mattingly made a lot of sarcastic comments on Puig faking injuries. I love how easy it is to cast stones too because there are soooo many articles everywhere about the guy. SO many in fact I probably missed a lot of what I could list. Lots of this came from his days with the Dodgers and for sure he was very immature. But even immaturity doesn't explain away driving 110 MPH with your mom in the car. That's just moronic. Has he grown up some. Yes , No one could be as dumb and immature as he was continuously when he was younger. Maybe he knows how to manipulate the media better now and when to keep his mouth shut and how to say wonderful things about the team, the town and the fans. Maybe it's the truth.. All this crap about fun and swag is sticking your heads in the sand for the sake of your own entertainment. He got 2 suspensions for on field incidents with the Reds in 2019. A rising team like the Sox already rubs the old guard the wrong way. Do they really need a lightning rod like Puig to make things worse ? Do they really need to be one of those teams getting in on field brawls for your entertainment ? Once in a while those brawls result in injuries. How fun would that be ? AJ Pierzynski was and probably still is a jerk . Unlike Puig I can't recall anyone questioning AJ's dedication and work ethic . But like Puig he was also a hated guy by the opponents and not well liked in the clubhouse. That's the difference between them. Puig is a guy who earlier in his career skated by on his talent alone and now is realizing that talent is going away with age and to continue drawing easy money he needs to work harder , kiss ass in the media, and now that that talent is waning is not wanted by anyone anymore because the talent does not overwhelm the headaches anymore or even the ghosts of perceived headaches.

Greg, Colas has nothing to do with it. If they sign him he will be in the low minors.

Mazara was 8th in all of baseball in 2019 for average distance of HR and 6th in 2018 , 11th in 2017 so I doubt it's the ball only . What we have to hope for is him hitting more fly balls and less ground balls.

But he will get to face the Tigers and Royals a lot more than he faced the Sox.

If the Sox have any interest at all in Puig or Puig in the Sox they both will wait He's still probably looking for more playing time and at least $5M a year . Highly unlikey the Sox want to pay him $3M or that he wants to be the weak side of a platoon to start the season. This will end with another team signing him like the Cards, Rays or Giants for more than the Sox were willing to pay or it will end up with him signing in March .

So what's the amount where he is expendable ?

Apparently he only thinks about the rest of his career when he really has to, not realizing the rest of your career is dependent on everything you do up to that point. He's his own worst enemy.

Propose a trade.to get JP , then another trade to get rid of Mazara .Keep in mind the Sox already gave up a prospect for Mazara Could they get an equal prospect back for him ? Who still needs help in a corner OF ? Cardinals ? Giants ? Do the Sox really need to trade 2 prospects for a RF for 1 year when they already traded one prospect for 2 years ?

30 red flags.

If he follows James on a regular basis at least he knows the right guys to pay attention to when they tweet.

You guys are nuts. All I want is to win but you want a circus freak show too. I'm all for fun but understand this. If the Sox get Puig it's because everyone else decided to look the other way while he was drowning . If he does one little thing to rock the boat he will be thrown back into icy cold water filled with sharks without hesitation. You'll be singing a different song when someone break Moncada's arm in a bench clearing brawl started by our swaggy team. This isn't the NFL quite yet. The 49ers ended up looking like morons dancing and posing in the end zone after the interception. I told my friend watching the game with me WTF are they doing this game isn't over yet. 21 straight points by KC later they were losers. Winning is still the most fun you can have.

I already told you ( not you specifically). Gio Gonzales strike 3. 3 times a Sox 3 times never played for the Sox.

#88 for Robert. He apparently likes 8's. Hit 8 HR at Winston Salem in 2019. 8 HR at Birmingham. 16 HR (8X2) at Charlotte. Extension worth $88M if maxed out. Might as well predict he hits .288 88 RBI, 88 RS, ,488 SLG .788 OPS, 28 Doubles, 8 triples, 28 HR . Hmm that would make his OBP only .300 wouldn't it ? Maybe with his fielding he will get a 3.8 or 3.2 (8x4) WAR. Hope he doesn't K 188 times.

Kind of weird NOT Cishek mentioned Pederson and Stripling since no one is saying that deal is dead.

Isn't it obvious that the Sox would give up Gio Gonzalez thus having had him 3 times without ever playing for the Sox ? ?

He'll be a good follow in the AZL this year.

Is this the 1st IFA pitcher on whom they spent more than $1M ?

Reported by who ? James Fox already mentioned he heard it was Bummer. He's the most reliable ear to the Sox FO here and you weren't buying it. So I assume you have a list of guys you would believe who will tell you details of a deal that didn't happen ? That's not asking for much.

When the trade is actually reported as finished and we know all the moving parts this can be addressed.

What a crock . Sox didn't need another Cuban anyway did they ? Do 2nd round draft picks get $4M ?

At least you tried to figure out a reason for why the Sox would do it. I'll make everyone happy and include Mazara. He can break out in Colorado and hit 50 HR's there. Yohan (sic) to RF . Madrigal stays at 2nd base. Rocks include money and P Ashton Goudeau. Cease, Mazara, Seby Zavala, Bernardo Flores to the Rox. PS. I'm just screwing around since every thread worth commenting in has been beat to death.

If anything Boston would be the team to hold it up. The JDM contract had some provisions in it regarding a previous foot injury. Not sure how much the Betts part of the deal is affected. I think they are pleased with that . They have to work out something with the Twins but they think they can work it out. If not they might go to another 3rd team.