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QUOTE (Heads22 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 09:51 PM) As someone who works in sports, the loyalty that the Sox show is kind of heartening in some respects. It may be. But what's more heartening is winning. Bob

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 11:50 PM) Ozzie wasn't fired. He quit to get more money so he wouldn't die poor. Kenny offered to stand down. Cora was never going to be interim. Cowley isn't a journalist. Greg Walker was responsible for the hitters to a degree. Feel free to add to it. We should seriously consider Terry Francona as manager but won't for a variety of no good reasons. Bob

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) Sox Seem Resigned to Rebuilding Kenny pretty blunt about it too with some choice quotes. I for one am looking forward to a rebuild, even though I'm not sure Kenny is the one to be in charge of it. Bring it on. This is hard to say knowing how aggressive KW is, but he doesn't have the stones to go for a full fledged rebuild and do what needs to be done. I know it's more complicated then that, but I expect minor rebuilding at most. He could have started rebuilding in 2007 and 2009 and didn't have the guts to pull it off then. In 2009, he added vets. Bob

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Sep 15, 2011 -> 06:58 PM) Ok I'm bored and coming from the other thread about mark about all time pitchers. Ok now there's a catch, players you've seen(in person, tv, whatever) example I was born in 1975 so I'll be talking about players anywhere from 80-81 on, give it a 5-6 year period, so if you were born in 85 don't talk about dick Allen.. Ohh and only one choice you can maybe do a split for one player, can't go agh DH Thomas/Franco and third crede/Ventura, can only do this once... Make a 25 man roster My is..... I have a selective memory and tried to ignore injury. Rudy Law CF Ray Durham 2B Frank 1b Julio Franco DH Harold Baines RF Carlton Fisk C Robin Ventura 3B Carlos Lee LF Alexi Ramirez SS SP Hoyt McDowell Bere Seaver Buehrle Relivers Foulke Jenks Hernandez Thigpen Thornton Dennis Lamp Barry Jones Radinsky Sale

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Aug 15, 2011 -> 09:47 PM) You can't give the job to Hahn without giving Kenny (as much I dislike him) the opportunity to work with his own hand-pick manager. Reinsdorf is to blame for all of this crap. If Cito is the guy Kenny wanted, Jerry should have signed-off. Ummm..We did win a World Series with Ozzie. I'm not saying he hasn't lost his luster or that I'm sick of the feuding between OG and KW, but like I said, we did win a WS. Bob

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Aug 15, 2011 -> 09:39 PM) If this team hires LaRussa as the manager I quit. LaRussa is a complete asswipe. Also, what is this weird fasination people have with Logan Morison? He's kind of bad. Don't know much about Logan, but I agree on LaRussa. Basbeall genisu, but he is a fool. Bob

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 14, 2011 -> 05:33 PM) I'll go out on a limb and say Reinsdorf won't hire a pricy manager. Or a caucasian. Bob

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 9, 2011 -> 04:57 PM) I know it's been said that we'll "cut to 100M" but I am not buying it. I think JR and gang are making a bit more than they claim they are, and they'll find a way to be around 120 next year. Just a hunch. If they finish strong and Dunn and Rios play like major league players for the rest of the season then I can see the payroll being in the $100-110MM range. FWIW, Peter Gammons said he heard the Sox would lose $14M this season before the Edwin Jackson trade. So now it's closer to $10M. If this team actually gets legitmately back into a pennant race (need to see .500 first before I'll even worry about catching CLE let alone DET) they may actually lose closer to $8M if attendance increases. Attendance increasing in Sept in a big 'if'. Bob

QUOTE (Lauren.Teahen @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 10:15 PM) I always promised myself I would NEVER read, write or respond to one of these forums...but here I am. A Chicago friend informed me of this thread and suggested I read it. There truthfully is no story here. Many of you follow Mark on Twitter & know he is the type to throw out humor before nonsense. Why some of you chose to assume his tweet was about Oney is beyond me. We don't use twitter to take shots at people. I personally have never spoken a word to him and I can assure you my husband has had minimal contact. Once Oney opted to respond, it was made clear he assumed the tweet in question was about him. It hurts my heart to think he assumes that is how he is viewed around the Chicago White Sox clubhouse. I really have no idea or concern for Oney's occupation. What I'm most curious of is why he would be so quick to think it's him? Regardless, just as I'm sure Oney wouldn't want to be looked at as lazy person, I don't want to be looked at as the "unhealthy", "man like", "hideous" wife of Mark Teahen. It pains me that I even feel the need to defend myself. However, I'm a woman and I think it's fair to say no woman likes to be PUBLICLY criticized on their appearance. I'm 6', and played Division 1 volleyball. Do I have a petite build...no. Am I massive and man-like....umm, hardly. Did I ask to be born with an athletic build...no. Is it something I'm ashamed of...absolutely not. As far as being hideous...well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm perfectly content with the face God gave me and I certainly don't go around criticizing the face of others. Again, I'm bothered by the fact that I couldn't be the better person and just walk away, but at the end of the day I am all woman, regardless of what Oney Guillen thinks. His words, while false, brought pain to my heart. I dare ask any of you how a woman in your life would respond put in this same terrible situation. I have never asked, nor do I ever want to be in the public eye....that's Mark's job. I didn't deserve to be publicly scrutinized and embarrassed by an individual I don't even know & who certainly doesn't know me. I'm sure a few of you will have some choice words for my response but I hope there are some of you that appreciate my coming forward and setting the record straight. The tweet was never directed at Oney nor have anything to do with Chicago, and I'm saddened assumptions, and unwarranted retaliation have occurred. I look forward to this non story being a distant memory. Mark & I truly enjoyed our time in Chicago. While he wishes things on the field would have worked out differently it just wasn't in the cards. We've moved on to the next adventure in our life and wish nothing but the best to the entire White Sox organization. Mark enjoyed playing for Ozzie and before today has never had an issue of any kind with anyone involved in MLB or their family members. Mark is a class act & perhaps can teach young Oney a thing or two about life. I'm truly blessed to have found such a wonderful man to call my husband. I'd typically end this note with Go Sox....but since I've officially been named a Lady Jay I just can't do it. Best of luck in life to you all. Be The Difference, Lauren Teahen (the hideous, unhealthy, manly wife of Mark Teahen) Lauren, I hope you are who you say you are so I don't look like an idiot. Most fans have no problem wiht your husband. It's a shame things didn't work out better on the field, but that's the way ball bounces. Also, most Sox fans know what a clown Oney is. Whether Mark's tweet was directed at him or not I don't know. I don't even know exactly what Oney said about you. I'm surprised (though I guess I shouldn't be) that he would stoop as low as making fun of your looks. I can assure you, that whether the tweet was directed at Oney or not, that I would love to see Oney get his comeuppance. He has no business being around this team and commenting on trivial matters as people's looks or juding people's private lives (like he did with Jenks.) So without seeing Oney's tweet (I feel like I jumped in the middle of something here) was Mark just making a general statement? Bob

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 1, 2011 -> 11:23 AM) Mark Teahen tweet: Interesting... Did I miss something? Was this directed at Oney or was it just a comment in general? Is there something I don't know? Teahen doesn't seem the type to do that. Bob

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 11:04 PM) Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal #WhiteSox seeking rotation depth. Traded Jackson to save money, now concerned they're too thin. #tradedeadline #MLB Whats Kenny up to is Captain Chaos back? I assume he's trying to get more for Quentin and/or Thornton but I don't think he has the testicular fortitude to trade them now. They aren't going to get a great deal and the fans will revolt (more then they already have.) Bob

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 10:13 PM) Said it in his post game presser After tonight's inexcusable performance AND what KW said publicly just days ago...? This team just insists on killing any kind of momentum. On the field and off. I think they're trying to get Rios on track. Let him face a left who is struggling. Maybe a couple of basehits will help him mentally. Also, how does De Aza hit against lefties? Bob

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 02:27 PM) LOL http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/page/rumbli...potential-deals That's what the other GM's did when KW threw Dunn's name into the mix. LOL, expect it was probably more like ROFLMAO. Bob

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:16 PM) Wait, Rios + Thornton for Gamel + more minor leaguers? I'm hella down with that. Not happening. Why would anyone want Rios, even if they can have him for nothing? Bob

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 09:24 PM) I don't think Ozzie, for all of his big talk, has the stones to quit this job. He'll have to be fired, and I bet he'll go out kicking and screaming whenever he is. Yep. Ozzie and his son would tweet their heads off. We'd hear all the clubhouse stuff from his son who can't keep his mouth shut, and of course none of it would be Ozzie's fault (at least according to his son.) I think it took KW way to long to make a move. It's nice to shake things up a little for a struggling team. Rios is now hopefully on the bench for a long time. Sounds great to me. Bob

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 01:29 PM) Terry Boers Sox contact says Sox are "desperate" to trade Quentin and Jackson, and that top prospects arent being offered for either player. Says 7 teams have been in contact about those two players That will change once the trade deadline gets close. 9 days away. Not sure of all the other hitters and pitchers that are available in trades, but once the first trade is made, other teams will begin to feel the heat to get something done. Bob

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 11:48 AM) Kenny is in a holding pattern on the off chance they win their next 6. He's way if he things that's the case. Unless this team could pitch 6 shut outs in a row because we know the offense isn't going to do anything. Bob

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2011 -> 08:52 AM) I don't know if he makes it to .270, but he has been on a slow and steady climb for a while now. He is coming around for sure. He better be. We all had high hopes for this guy. Anytime he wants to play to his potenital is fine with me. Bob

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 3, 2011 -> 06:58 AM) Adam Dunn is currently at .180/.329/.326/.654. That is an OBP higher than a slugging percentage. That is a damn near statistical anomaly in itself. He has played in 50 games, which is just less than 1/3 of a full major league season. All hope is lost for him doing anything for the next 2/3. Though, of course, it's not. With a player who has the "consistency" of Adam Dunn (only month in his career with an OPS below .872 is September/October, when he's at .771, but I blame that mostly on him having no motivation considering he's played on a losing team for so long), he has slumped like this before. Dating back to his first full year in the league... 2002 - Aug 2 to Sept 29 - 54 G, 49 GS - .171/.302/.283/.585 2003 - Jul 9 to Aug 15 - 33 G, 32 GS - .214/.350/.321/.672 2004 - Aug 17 to Sept 24 - 35 G, 34 GS - .198/.336/.421/.757 2006 - Aug 2 to Oct 1 - 55 G, 54 GS - .174/.308/.332/.639 2009 - Aug 24 to Oct 4 - 36 G, 35 GS - .198/.318/.341/.659 There was also a stretch, in either 2007 or 2008, where he put up a line of something like .200/.350/.450 over a 50-60 game stretch where he hit 15 homers, but I figured people would get on my case because he ran into 10 more balls instead of missing them. His BABIP was still garbage. Yeah, nitpick if you want to - HE'S ONLY DONE THIS ONCE IN THE LAST 5 YEARS AND 3 OF THOSE ARE FEWER THAN 40 GAMES - they are still month long sustained slumps and, believe it or not, Adam Dunn worked his way out of those. Not gonna do anything without some sabermetric help either. Adam Dunn, throughout his career, has a career BABIP of .295 and a HR/FB of 21.9%. Considering he's put those up over a period of almost 6300 PAs, I'd say those are sustainable rates. Currently, he's at .265 and 9.6%. The BABIP may not come up - there's history to indicate that he can stay below that - but that HR/FB is going to come up. So he [probably] won't hit 40 homers. No biggie. The worst OPS he put up, other than that crappy 2003 (where he ended up with an .819 OPS, shoot me in the face that's so bad) were .854 in 2002 and .855 in 2006. Otherwise, he's been at or above .890. The premise of the post is that Adam Dunn is going to turn it around. Anybody who is seriously worried about him is fooling themselves. All Ozzie can do is keep doing what he's doing. Hopefully Adam and his slump break up soon and it was just a spring fling. Seriously, this is getting ridiculous. To paraphrase Harvey Kitel in Pulp Fiction---"Pretty Please with sugar on top---hit the freaking baseball." Bob

QUOTE (typewritermender @ Sep 5, 2010 -> 03:22 PM) Continue to defend Ozzie Guillen? He's a stubborn idiot who has no business coaching a contender. He consistently makes bonehead decisions with the lineup, the bullpen and on the basepaths. Every year he has a love affair with an absolute whiffer at the plate, while simultaneously withholding chances from young guys with high potential. He stifles development and seemingly has no ability to fire his team up in crucial moments. For the last several years we've been a team that really really struggles to get those crucial hits with RISP. It seems that so many of our wins either come at the hands of excellent pitching, or a total offensive blowout. We rarely seem to be able to just stay ahead of the other team, scoring after they score to keep in the game. He's loud and obnoxious with the media, telling sox fans to go f**k themselves, and a lot of guys don't seem to want to play for him (like Berkman). I don't care if we win the world series this year, I want Ozzie gone. "Ozzie Ball" has just turned into "run into outs and baby your best players while paying no heed to stats or common sense." I personally love Kenny & think he's one of the best GMs in the bigs. Keep KW, fire Ozzie. While Ozzie has his moments, do you really want to take a chance on finding another Jerry Manuel or Terry Bevington? Ozzie is fine. Every manager makes mistakes. I'm sure he had his reason or stats. It's not all favoritism. The only reason I want to see Ozzie go is because off all the off the field crap. It annoys me. I'm tired of hearing about Twitter and fighting with KW over whose son gets a bigger signing bonus. The on the field stuff doesn't bother me. I am rather enjoying this offense. Remember last late Aug and Sept when this offense couldn't score any runs? Bob Bob

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 11:00 PM) This has been planned since they signed him. He is scheduled to make it to the Sox by late August, early September. Is he ready for the majors? Bob

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 10, 2010 -> 10:10 PM) Q! is on fire lately, and just looks a lot stronger and more comfortable at the plate. Am I the only one noticing that he is looking a lot more like the Carlos of old as he heats up? He may be back, but the sad question is for how long. He is sooooo fragile. Bob

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 13, 2010 -> 05:49 PM) Which is why ARIZ was willing to part with him for Carter, despite his sterling minor league numbers....that and the injury-bug reputation. Well, I'm still not quite ready to go to Fathom's declaration that I'd rather have C. Carter back (instead of Quentin), but the pendulum is definitely swinging. Certainly, we owe the 2008 ALCD at least 20-25% to Quentin's monster year. C. Carter would/could/might be ONE big piece of the puzzle, but unless he's going to put up a 900+ OPS right out of the gate, I wouldn't expect that his presence on the current roster would have made any difference at all, unless he could have played 3B or magically morphed into a LHB who could take plate appearances away from TMK. You mean the same AZ that thought it was a good idea to give Eric Byrnes $30 million? I'm convinced Quentin's problems are all metnal. He just needs to stop thinking and start hitting. Go with the pitch and stop swinging for the fences. If TCQ could grow up (mentally) and not be so weirdly intense, he can be an MVP. This is going to be the difference between him making $12MM per year or being a journeymen that some team with no payroll and no pressure signs in hopes he can live up to the talent. Bob

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ May 13, 2010 -> 09:12 PM) By the way, I think the key hitting statistic is our average w/ RISP. It's dead last. We've actually finished last twice before under Greg Walker ('05-surprisingly & 07) but we were much closer to the mean both times. This stat really bugs me. Why are the Sox so bad at this. All the turnover the team has gone in 2005 and they still have the same problem: Crappy situational hitting. What makes the Sox so bad at this but a team like the Twins so good? It perplexes me. Maybe what this team needs is an in your face hitting coach like Hriniak who will get on people like TCQ for being crap. Bob

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Feb 8, 2010 -> 11:11 AM) As it stands, the Twins are the best team in the division. At least, on paper and through projections. Damon would help us close the gap, maybe even push us over the top. I think the gap is narrower then people think. One thing many aren't taking into consideration is how the Twins new ballpark plays. The gap between the Twins home and road record will likely narrow as the Twins are moving outdoors. Whether they took advantage and cheat at the Metrodome, I don't know. And while the Twins have great hitters, it's a lot harder for hitters to find a groove when they are playing home stands in April/May in 40 degree weather with changing wind conditions and not relying on the same 70 degrees every game. Maybe I'm overanalyzing the move to a ballpark, but just having less of a 10th man effect in the fans should make a difference. Bob