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I generally support Snowden as I think the United States should make an explicit decision to support those measures. I'd prefer they explicitly restrict them, but it seems like that is a battle to be fought. I support Greenwald as a journalist but he can be hysterical. Of the work of foreign policy journalists I've always favored Spencer Ackerman and Juan Cole. But I trust that Greenwald will perform due diligence with information. That is my complaint (along with anti-semitism) of Assange. He doesn't appear to understand what he releases.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 05:26 PM) Considering SS had the same response, the misunderstanding is probably on me disseminating my opinion as opposed to you two interpreting it. I get it now, and I think that is a defensible position.

I hate seeing hastings and breitbart in the same sentence. Hastings was an actual journalist who actually rattled leadership. Breitbart was a charlatan. It should be noted that hastings last reporting was on Bagdahl.

Alright, I think I get it now. Rabbit - I misunderstood you saying that Russia was being more noble in the case of Assange/Wikileaks NOT transparency globally. That was what I responded to.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 05:01 PM) can you expand on the dead Obama critics thing? Michael Hastings is going to come up.

Your case would have been stronger of: "I dont' care that they ignore Russian issues so long as they provide safe haven to US whistleblowers", but you didn't just say that. You said that Russia is a better global citizen, and when you say that, you at some point need to reconcile the actual actions and motives of the countries involved. Is everything Russia does terrible? No. Does Russia oppress its opposition with violence, property seizure and threats? Yes. That is true. Russia's ruling class came to power from using grift to take power over former state run industries and reap the profits. As long as they supported the right russian party, that is fine. A lot of people try to investigate how some came to be in power. They don't get far. So it can't be that you care about "global citizenry", you only care about US citizens. And you know what sucks about that? Turns out it's really hard to create change in democracy. It requires working institutions and convincing people. You probably feel like US gov't is some oppressive top down scheme. But the reality that's hard to face is Snowden dumped all of that information and people don't really care. They employ their gov't to protect them and don't care that their data is being tracked. They don't care about drones. They don't care about other governments. It takes a lot of work to convince people that the effects to try and control small amounts of risk is not worth it, and causing worse issues and creates the potential for far worse. But a lot of people in this thread do work to elect and make those arguments to people to make it better. I think that's the better route, I think you think that's a route for shills. But , I am pretty certain that hoping for a foreign government to interfere with your government to punish the people in charge for being so corrupt is not going to end up with the outcomes you envisioned. 2 things i've learned from following politics and traveling to other countries: 1. People assume the opposite of bad is good, but most of the time the opposite of bad is worse 2. Corruption in the US compared to most other countries is very small. And a second point, considering your pointed criticisms of others: - You complain about strangesox putting articles to vox, but you very rarely are capable of backing up your claims. Including one time accusing us of not being familiar with the most famous case of the wikileaks DNC drop that you yourself turned out not to be familiiar with. You are free to post all of the Michael Hastings conspiracies you want. Just don't be surprised if you get push back.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) That Rams game seems like a trap game. Everyone expects the Rams D to shut SF down but man it's kinda giving me the trap game feel. Taylor is so hit and miss that I didn't keep him this season; although when he's on, he's a top 5 fantasy QB. I would not be surprised if Kelly put special importance to destroying the Rams game one.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend is how a lot of people convinced themselves that a lot of much worse people and actors are fine just because they are smaller.

By the way here is more insanity on the trump foundation: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how...db62_story.html Fahrenholdt has been doing pretty difficult but classic journalistic legwork. Very interesting stuff here:

You are more concerned with the methods but aren't concerned about murder? In other words, charging Snowden with stealing classified information is beyond the pale, but murdering people as long as they are targeted at Russian or Chinese targets is perfectly fine? Journalists are disappearing from Hong Kong. Is China pro-transparency? They hack the US too.

No way. no way you believe this: "While I love my country, what Russia is doing is more noble than what the USA is doing when looking at this as a citizen of the world as opposed to a citizen of the USA." By your very response, you believe that Assange is acting out of personal self interest, but an interest that your share "transparency". Do you believe that Russia helps Snowden out of interest of transparency? What tears do you shed for those that try to bring transparency and actually get murdered, not just "fear they'll be imprisoned" like Greenwald but ... never have been. Here - here is your most conservative estimate: https://cpj.org/killed/europe/russia/ 56 Journalists killed. There's also the Russians that tried to investigate this:http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439060/vladimir-putin-1999-russian-apartment-house-bombings-was-putin-responsible All dead. Cept for that guy. Great citizen of the world and pro-transparency org.

I won a playoff spot, finally. For weeks it was a nail biter as I was tied with 3 teams in record but last in points among them, then now am in 4th having surpassed 1 in points and won 3 straight weeks. would love to pull money out of this league and then quit. Can't stand the way it's run.

Players I think could be playmakers on D: Hall - raw but has that 1 piece (length) that could be elite Floyd - speed Bullard - git'up Goldman - strength/speed Offense: Whitehair Jeffery White Long Sitton Players we have to hope for - Runningbacks. One of HOward/Carey/Langford. Watching David Johnson right now (mid round pick), he has so much more explosion than any of what we have. Need to hit better on those picks.3 straight years with a runningback pick and none has anything special to them.

Maybe skill player wise but long/sitton are pretty good.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 10:30 AM) Based on what I knew of Johnson from his time as a governor, and looking at his policy points, I was pretty sure I was going to vote for him for President. But around the time of his Aleppo flub, I had started reading other things that were disturbing in terms of a lack of understanding of the workings of the world. The more I look, the more I can't do it. So I'm owning up to my own mistake, lol. I'll be voting for Clinton, sadly. Not happy about it, but I don't really have another reasonable choice. A ham sandwich on stale white bread isn't appealing, but it's a lot better than a pile of steaming garbage, and the third party "alternative" dish gets a lot worse the more you look at it. I would imagine the next election they will flip flop and Weld will take the lead. Weld is much smarter, maybe that's mean but he's at least quicker on his feet.

Man this is brutal: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016...p-remembers-911

It could be worse I had Tyrod Taylor. Getting 5 points from your quarterback is a lot harder to overcome.

Wish I'd have rolled with Fitzgerald over Watkins, that's for sure.

I remember watching a scene in Mad Men where a Japanese business comes in and Roger goes off on them about WWII. I was watching it probably 6-7 years ago and thinking, many it's 20 years later were people still holding on to that? And now it's 15 years later, and in some ways it feels that length of time ago, in others it's just too powerful to ignore. I will say now having lived in a city for years, and at the time having lived in a suburb for my whole life and rarely ventured into city, this resonates a lot more to me now.

Oh, FYI, I moved daa's post from the NFL thread. Sorry for not mentioning.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 08:37 AM) Walking pneumonia. Bacterial infection, antiobiotics, she'll be fine after a few days. No, no, this is a scandal.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 11, 2016 -> 08:11 PM) If you think Assange is a hack after the Manning Leaks, Snowden assistance, DNC Leaks, etc. you're probably just biased. HRC is a lifetime politician with skeletons in closets from all over the world who is pretending to be the people's champion. There's a lot of room for investigative journalism. She's also part of the administration that tried to use their international presence to indefinitely imprison Assange for his work so yes, he has added personal incentive to go at her. In any case, after the FBI found she committed a felony and lied several times and still let her off, I think it's safe to assume she'll be fine regardless of Assange. The FBI did not found she committed a felony, and I would encourage you to actually read that report. As for the rest, sure, he may have set up an organization to do that. But you become a "hack" when your goal to promote government transparency seems to be narrowly focused to western governments and strangely absent on critical documents of, say, Russia. You become a hack when your twitter feed and personal comments express anti-semitism. You become a hack when you apparently are fine holding documents to dump at the right time (to hurt Clinton campaign and elect a very pro-transparency Trump), but are not fine reviewing the documents that you are holding to make sure you don't out homosexuals in countries where they could be murdered for it and release personal bank information for thousands of innocent people. Why again wasn't wikileaks involved in the panama papers? Was it their commitment to transparency? Pretty weird. Why didn't they publish emails that showed Syria sending a cash transfer to Russia? Was that also their commitment to transparency and not being pro-Russia hacks? Maybe they didn't used to be hacks, but now are. But, I mean, I didn't even get to the tweets where they pulled emails from the DNC hack, had no idea what they menat, and tried to get them to sound ominous like when an aide asked to get a video copy of a segment from MSNBC, but their "twitter team" thought it meant they were asking to "pull the segment" as in, "don't air it". Now, maybe I'm being unfair. The New York Times has some incredble work and sometimes has hack work. But Wikileaks at some point needs to answer why it consistently fails to be transparent when the topic is Russian operatives and Oligarchs.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 12, 2016 -> 08:39 AM) He is raw though. They also didn't really use him properly. he should catch a few quick passes and bubbles to get him in space initially. Everyone's routes were too deep yesterday. Houston's defense is awesome but Crennel took Loggains to the woodshed in the 2nd half I think eventually we'll get a fly route but have to wonder how hamstring issue plays into that. Noticeable difference this year was the lack of RB dumpoffs.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Sep 11, 2016 -> 04:13 PM) Who the f*** is Jalen Richard?!?! The supposed fourth string running back behind much more discussed deondre Washington. I hate fantasy.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 11, 2016 -> 08:01 PM) If Assange was a hack we wouldn't know who he is. Then why must I know who Ron Fournier is? This isn't fair.