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QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:22 PM) This just makes the most sense to me, assuming they can't get the king ransom's for Sale and Q. I'd try to get Carlos Gomez on a 1 year deal. Let Tilson be the 4th OF. That team is still terrible.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) Flash Tizzle. But it is a cleaver way of not answering a question. Clever. I don't like the Rangers much as a match, so Mazara/Gallo is all I care about. But I was the one in this thread re-setting expectation that I would be happy with one of the top 2 prospects from Boston if it meant 3-4 top 100 along with it, OR if we did receive both we should not expect much more. From LAD, Urias/Bellinger is the core you need, then can work to get 2-3 others. Urias wasn't even budged for Hamels, so getting him plus Bellinger starts to approach top value.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:47 PM) Boston, LA, Texas. The other guy refused to answer, what is the bare minimum from each you would think the Sox should take? So you can remember random caulfield posts from 4 years ago but you can't remember who you were arguing with 5 minutes ago? \

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:42 PM) I don't know what the offers are either, but they set a price and are sticking with it. I think that is good strategy. If Sale must be traded, he can still be traded after the season. Them setting a price and sticking to it is exactly why we have JB Shuck as our starting CFer. Their prices are terrible. They are both incredibly conscious of how a longterm expensive deal can hamstring a team and completely ignorant of how their routine raiding and horrible player development hamstrings them longterm. If Sale must be traded for one price that doesn't exist, then, you can finish that. I have complete confidence a better GM could have created a more interesting package for Sale by starting a bidding war at a lower price than by saying "give me your major league offense!" to a bunch of playoff teams.

Dick - no. We aren't doing this circular kill thread with randomly accusing people of making an argument you heard once somewhere. We are here to beat a dead horse on a trade that will not happen.

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:26 PM) I wonder if Jeff Marquez is available

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) The Yankees have nothing in the pipe. They have some, not my favorite though.

What is the keith law tweet? All I see is kenwo4life from sss going after him with the lamest regurgitated crap.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 12:58 PM) It's sad how predictable their failures are. Just like we're hear in December that the market is oversaturated with SP on the block, which decreases our pitchers value, and "why would someone give up all of that for Sale when they can pay half for Archer?" So true.

Sure.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 12:39 PM) Embarrassing. This organization is an absolute headache and I agree with the poster who said while I'll always be a Sox fan, it'll be time to step away from the team for awhile. No more games this year. Even if you're going to make excuses for Quintana and Sale, what about everyone else? I cannot believe only Zach Duke and his 4th OF return was the best option out there. Yeah yeah there are 2.5 hours left, but I'm sure we'll be left disappointed yet again. Then again come winter when Sale and Q still remain. Then 2017 when we're again mediocre. We joked about it earlier, and it's so true. Whenever it's the sox turn to sell, all of the things we say make them attractive are the things that we hear back as why they can't get a return.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) From reading around it seems like a great majority of Red Sox fans don't want a deal for Sale to get done. Can't blame them. Think about how much you didn't want to trade Tim Anderson last year (not you but in general) and then add that he's the #1 prospect in baseball.

Really surprised there is 0 quintana chatter and has been. Kind've reaffirms that others don't see his market as the same.

This is dumb.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 12:06 PM) Puig would make some sense, as the Sox are probably not going to be able to land a CF in FA this winter. Eaton will probably have to return to CF regardless. Except next year shouldn't matter. But it will.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 12:03 PM) The Sox aren't done. They may not blow the whole thing up, but they're not done. And Reddick would hold no appeal to the Sox. He's a FA at year end. Nonsense. I'll believe Reddick is not a sox target when he retires.

While there is a possibility Dodgers are going to swing Reddick/Puig out to us, I'd put it more likely that we're done. If we do sell in the offseason, I hope it is without our current management. If we buy...

I'm going to go look for my Disappointed thread from last trade deadline.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 11:35 AM) White Sox intrigued of Benintendi, ERod, Swihart, and Devers package from Red Sox for Chris Sale. Who wrote this?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 10:50 AM) I do agree with Our Chuck. Just wait it out. No need to blink. This is a guy that can get you a WS this year and you still have him with about $50-$60 million discount the next 3 seasons. If they don't want to blink and don't win the WS, they have to live with it. It still would be an unprecedented trade if done after this season. Open it up to a few teams. With his contract, non contenders should be making offers for him now. My main concern is only this with waiting until the offseason: The White Sox again convincing themselves that they are close with their staff.

The first person I would budge on is kopach honestly.

Meh, still don't think it happens.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 09:49 AM) The starting price for Chris Sale should be a young cost controlled, somewhat proven star player, and a mess of prospects. We aren't going to get that because we are in season, so we are already settling. If we aren't getting multiple high ranking top prospects. Not bottom of the to 100, but true and legitimate top prospects. If you aren't getting it, you wait til the off season when you can get that major league every day player in a deal. Well, that's your price. I don't see a need to get a proven star when we letting other pieces season while we make a big push of talent at once. Otherwise we will just have the same "WE ARE CLOSER THAN WE APPEAR" logic.

So a few things happened since a couple weeks ago: - The British central bank showed that they would be more capable than they were in the financial crisis to avert crisis - All pro-Brexit politicians somehow exited stage left - The early EU pressure that a decision be made right away then pulled back to waiting until after home EU elections - Theresa May said that the article would not be executed unless Scotland voted yes (which of course, Scotland voted against Brexit initially). Now, are people appropriately accounting for the risk this actually happens? Probably not. But all signs are pointing to a lack of conviction after the vote to pull this off. Especially with the realization that the Northern Ireland peace accords would be screwed with Brexit, or there would just be one open border that basically undermines cloing borders anyway.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) The larger problem is that people simply don't care. Trump is immune to fact-checking. Even if he's busted red-handed on the spot making a huge ass lie about something that's a big deal, his supporters will just go "but Hillary" and waste time with false equivalences. Cause emails.