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but that's just taking the broad idea of marxism based off of its implementation by a few governments. It's not just nationalizing, it's nationalizing with the intent of creating complete anti-capitalism. And nationalizing typically means more than merely the gov't becoming the major stockholder in a huge recession with mild restrictions. It's just not marxism. It really isn't. Is it rooted in democratic socialism? yes, but that's a different beast than envisioned socialism of the 19th-early 20th century.

i love candy wweeeh we weh

alexei walks.

double for AJ with 2 outs. Hope we can pick em up with Alesay.

nasty pitch. He gawn.

nasty pitch. He gawn.

I'd like to see some sweet Rios D. Catching balls between his legs and hat catches and s***.

just lame as hell.

2 on no out quickly one on 2 out.

jesus pods gets thrown out...

hahahahahahaha Roberts bobbles BOBBLES BOBBLES everybodys safe... wish I had a picture of hamburglar. ROBBLE ROBBLE ROBBLE

leadoff man aboard. Like when Scotts swing looks so level and pretty.

Quick first half. I feel like the world is gone tonite.

I'm watching mlb network for the first time. It is awesome. They were just analyzing Tex v. TB, and I learned stuff. They spoke of players I'd not followed. Unbelievable. ESPN is over 4 ME

Nice. How's JD been hitting recently?

I'm not either.

did the cubs get sold? yes http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi...0,2253874.story

responding to nonsense doesn't, I can tell you that.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 10:30 PM) There are always exceptions to every rule and statement. but the 20-somethings driving a bmw, texting on thier Blackberrys and clubbing 3 nights a week, and don't have insurance, could afford it. A guy that worked for me fir that mold, mid 20's, I didn't offer insurance, and he and his wife together made more coin that I did. Drove brand new cars, went out all the time and took a trip to europe every year for vacation. but went without insurance because it wold crimp their lifestyle. And you have others who simply can't afford it, regardless of what they cut. yr. example sounds like the exception, quite frankly.

oh, you are right, that is marxist. Good job.

ugh, houndstooth.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 21, 2009 -> 10:57 PM) Yea, it's oversimplified. Of course it is. You think I'm writing a book? I'm just saying that he's a Marxist. It is what it is. Now if bat s*** crazy people want to go nuts on this, then they don't know what the real definition is. You said it well earlier when you said people get stupid over the definitions and it's sensationalized. It's a damn theory. It's much more than that. He believed the new industrial class, the proletariats, were the chosen people of sorts, supermen. After capitalism ran it's course, the working class it created would overthrow the government and make a workers government that would nationalize everything. After years under socialism, the government would no longer be needed, the perfect state of communism. But the importance is placed specifically on the proletariat class. He didn't care for farmers, peasants, merchants, middle class. So no, Obama is not a marxist. Much of the communist manifesto is documenting what makes a revolution possible looking at the French Revolution. The rest is spitting garbage about the proletariat working class. So no, Obama isn't a marxist.

Kap explain the tenets of Marxism and I'll give you a cookie.

sure.

even so "socialism" in marxist sense and the socialist democrats that arose in Western Europe are two entirely different beasts. (And in South America for that matter, though their dangerous socialist leaders have much more to do with Pero-type populism than Marxist socialism). But what does it matter, the important thing is the majority of people talking right now are very, very, very stupid.